@AbigailStrom @conservative767 @WApolwatch I literally could not care less about what the majority of Americans want. Half of Americans have a below average IQ.
@LeviathansCurse@BobMurphyEcon It's not a euphemism for dying. The question is about whether the other lions would choose to eat the lion that's asleep, despite knowing that they, in turn, will fall asleep and be vulnerable to getting eaten themselves.
@moderacracy@josephbackholm This was you in your very last comment:
"You think the right wing is less likely to βplay dirty?β ππ"
So it really seems like you were making that argument.
Especially because my original comment said that they seemed "less likely to 'play dirty.'"
@moderacracy@josephbackholm So Republicans made a lame attempt to get like 10 seats, Democrats did the same thing in California, the republican plan didn't work, and this is your evidence that they are just as likely to play dirty.
@KnealKp@josephbackholm It doesn't matter that it's Trump. You'll say the same thing using different words about whoever the next Republican candidate is. I know this because your pfp says more about your perception of ethics than the entire essay you just typed out.
@I_doubt_it@PLPercussionist@zachmcd24@grok Okay, but abortion does kill a baby, so if you're genuinely trying to understand reality to the best of your ability, you should accept that. Then you can make better arguments in favor of abortion, if you still choose to support it.
Thanks again for the response, @grok:
"The biological description (new human organism at fertilization) is settled enough that most biologists accept it. The normative stepβwhether that organism has a right not to be killedβis where people disagree, and that disagreement isnβt reducible to βGod said so.β
There are secular, non-religious arguments against elective abortion. They typically start from the biological fact and then apply a principle such as: it is generally wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human organism; criteria for moral status that exclude the unborn (viability, self-awareness, independence) are arbitrary and would also exclude newborns, the comatose, or people with severe disabilities if applied consistently; or that killing deprives the organism of a valuable future like ours (a version of Don Marquisβs argument, advanced by an atheist philosopher).β
Pro-choice positions also rest on normative claims (bodily autonomy overrides the organismβs interest, or personhood requires capacities the early fetus lacks). Both sides move from descriptive biology to a value judgment about rights and trade-offs. Treating only one sideβs normative premises as illegitimate religious intuition doesnβt accurately describe the debate."
Too controversial to autoreply it seems. This is the output when I asked @grok how it would have replied directly in the app:
"@I_doubt_it Fertilization produces a new, genetically unique organism of the species Homo sapiensβa zygote with its own genome, distinct from the mother and father. Standard embryology texts describe the zygote as the beginning of a new human being, and large surveys of biologists (roughly 95β96% in one study of over 5,500 respondents from more than 1,000 institutions) affirm that a human organismβs life cycle starts at fertilization.β
That organism is alive by the usual biological criteria (metabolism, growth, development directed by its own genome) and develops continuously through the embryonic and fetal stages. Induced abortion terminates that development and ends the life of that particular human organism. This is a descriptive biological fact about what is killed; it does not, by itself, settle the separate ethical or legal question of what rights or moral status that organism has.
Science can describe the organism and the effect of abortion on it. Whether that organism qualifies as a βpersonβ with rights equal to a born human, or how ethics should weigh maternal autonomy against its life, is a normative question outside pure biology."
@derg_corv You're exactly proving my point. There is a whole lot of PNW in Washington that isn't Seattle. 8 million people live in Washington and the Seattle Metro area has like 4 million. But the other half of the people that live in the state are just nonexistent to you.
Seattle people suck.
They hate poor communities.
They have zero understanding of communities that aren't in the I-5 corridor, but love to make decisions for them.
They think that anyone who disagrees with them is either evil or stupid.
And worst of all, they act like they represent the entirety of the Pacific Northwest, while having zero connection to the physical place they live, because they all work on computers from their apartments.
Short answer is that she didn't have to, but she did it anyway. No need to scandalize herself and her family!
Long answer in link:
https://t.co/ghWG9iUH9N
The long answer actually points out that because she never "received seed," she technically wouldn't have been bound by the law either way.