@roddreher This map would be much different if you took out church tithing, of which almost nothing goes to actual charity but is tied up in the church’s own self-perpetuation (property and personnel)
Look guys, it's really simple...
Just comply and you won't get hurt. When they say to get out of your car, get out. When they say to turn in your guns, turn in your guns. When they say to get in the box car, you get in the fucking box car.
Why is this so hard to understand?
@ericmetaxas I believe it’s 6 literal days in Genesis 1, but that those verses aren’t talking about creation, but PREPERATION. Creation likely happened over a long long time, guided by God via evolution.
@TomiLahren People such as your talking about it, for one. When you live in a Fox News echo-chamber you can think everyone against trump are a small fringe punk rock group. When you’re driving home, seeing the thousands of peaceful but vocal people of all ages, your perspective may change
Several thoughts here.
1) Let's decide if a 21-year-old is a kid or not. Because if not, then why not ask for accountability for vile stuff. They can drink, vote, and buy a gun. Kid? Give me a break.
2) We should be concerned about character formation, To put it another way, Vance is mad that someone exposed the group chat, but not focused on the character of the individuals in the group chat. "Out of the overflow of the heart..."
3) I have group chats with friends. There are edgy jokes. If one of my friends started joking about raping their enemies, throwing them in gas chambers, or started calling black folks monkeys or "watermelon people", my friends in my group chat would descend on them like vultures and beat them like they stole something. This isn't just young edginess. It's disgusting racism, and there should be no equivocation or justification for it.
@thatjustindean@LeviBakerink jumped out to me. I personally don’t see it as a bad strategy issue, I see it as a downstream effect that his isolation and lack of vulnerability had on the church as a whole
@thatjustindean@LeviBakerink I think Mark’s personal lack of long term (and honestly even short term of the most part) local friendships was one of the clearer areas of “bad fruit” that I started seeing early on. I was a CG guy my entire decade there, so that 1/2