@greenheroaf Okay, then show me the mathematical formula expressing it?
If it is real, then a scientist studied it Collected data then formalized it. So where is the formula? Post it?
@LiveInMushLove Just as the Sahale winds brought that ancient sea evaporation to quench the Sahara 140,000 years ago. The same process will happen over the next 5,000 years as the Earth continues to warm. The Sahara will become grassland again. All it needs is more rainfall.
So your chart shows that temperature rises with the amount of sunshine we get?
I think we all knew that. It's not in dispute.
The thread concerns Schwarzchild's Equation for Radiant Transfer and how it shows the decrease in the intensity of the Sun's heat radiation as it passes through the atmosphere.
All atoms and molecules absorb some types or radiation. What it absorbs it emits in accordance with the 1st Law of Thermo-dynamics.
Therm gases, absorb thermal radiation (Infrared radiation, or heat radiation)
As the Sun's ten-million degrees of heat finally reaches Earth, it has reduced in intensity to approximately 250 to 265 degrees, in accordance with the Inverse Square Law.
As it passes through the Earth Atmosphere it's radiation is absorbed by elements in the atmosphere.
The Sun's heat radiation is absorbed by the Therm gases in the air.
Therm gas absorb according to Schwarzchild's Equation for Radiant Transfer which tells us that the decrease in the intensity of heat radiation as it passes through the atmosphere is proportional to the number of absorbing Therm gas molecules in the atmosphere, times Planke's Function for Temperature, minus the starting intensity Times the distance traveled through the atmosphere.
Thus, the greater the number of Therm gas molecules in the air, the greater will be the drop in the Sun's heat radiation's temperature.
What is so hard about that that?
Schwarzchild's Equation for Radiant Transfer is a simply law, why can't you understand it?
The Earth atmosphere absorbs, and blocks out 78% of the Sun's radiation, including 70% of its heat radiation cooling the Earth. Simple! What can't you understand?
Here is a NASA chart showing the blocking of radiation by the atmosphere.
@SMcTavishESQ@Clarsonimus Reread the post And thenatmosphere.
Heat radiation is radiation, it does not need an atmosphete to spread throughout the universe.
@pjozolin@Clarsonimus ?
Are you saying Schwarzchild's Equation for Radiant Transfer is wrong?
If you have proved it to be false, you need to publish you paper right now.
Explain to me what you think is happening to warm the planet?
First Schwarzchild's Equation for Radiant Transfer says that the Sun's heat radiation will DECREASE in intensity as it passes through the Earth's atmosphere in direct proportion with the number of heat absorbing particles in the atmosphere; Times Planke's Function for Temperature, minus the starting intensity Times the distance traveled through the atmosphere.
So how do you see CO2 warming the Earth?
@ProfStrachan Look to the past to see the future of climate. Climate is largly cyclic.
Look at the last Inter-glacial Age to see what's going to happen.
As to question 2. This is a NASA chart showing what, and how much of the Sun's radiation is blocked out by the Earth's atmosphere.
6% of the visible light is blocked out. 12% of the Mid-IR is blocked out while none of the Radio waves are blocked out.
52% of the solar energy reaching the earth is Infrared, while visible light is only 38%.
All of teh Fare IR is blocked out, and 67# of the near-IR is blocked out.
All together 78% of the Sun's radiation is blocked out including 70% of the IR.
This is all in accordance with Schwarzschild's Equation for Radiant Transfer, which says:
The decrease in the intensitiy of heat radiation passing through the atmosphere is equal to the number of absorbing moelcule in the air, times Planke's function for Temperature, minus the intensity of the heat radiation when it entered the atmospher, times the distance traveled.
In short, the more heat absorbing molecules in the air the more heat will be absorbed by the atmsophere, and so, less heat will pass through the atmospher to reach and warm the earth.
The heat radiation absorbing gases in the atmosphere make up a gaseous parasole that shades the Earth from the Sun's heat radiation.
Based on the past 600 million years of climate change on this chart, YOU answer question #1. Temperature is barely rising cmparied to tehhostoric past. is barly a blip on ths chart. Look at the rise at th end of the Ordovician Perioe. Look at the Permian rise. Where do you see these type so maga riese in earth temperature today.
Just google when the Earth saw its fastest, and biggest temperter rise. It is NOT today.
Climate change today is no where near the record.
@Daaanvdb It's 250F degrees above the atmosphere only 76F degrees below it. CO2 helps to block out 174F degrees of solar heat cooling the Earth. Adding more CO2 will block out more Sun heat further cooling the Earth not warm it.
@avertcollapse It's 250F degrees above the atmosphere only 76F degrees below it. CO2 helps to block out 174F degrees of solar heat cooling the Earth not warming it. Adding more CO2 will block out more Sun heat further cooling the Earth not warm it.
We loose forested lands to cattle raising. The loss of evaporation from trees can affect wind patterns and the evaporation rate from the converted land.
Also much fewer Biogenetic vapors from trees (BVTs), meaning that their will be less cloud cover causing more heat reaching the surface.
It's 250F degrees above the atmosphere only 76F degrees below it. CO2 helps to block out 174F degrees of solar heat cooling the Earth not warming it. Adding more CO2 will block out more Sun heat further cooling the Earth not warming it.
You can not warm the Earth by blocking the Sun's heat.