Right.
The first two options are long gone. They have already tried that more than once.
The only real option is small nuke, but from where? Belarus?
A cease fire wont work because that would mean nato stationing troops in Ukraine and Russia won't allow it. Russian can't get more land, thats for sure. But Ukraine cant reclaim either, they don't have the man power.
So that only leaves one real option and that is a nuke. But coming from where? Belarus?
Seems like both Russia and Europe are willing to sacrifice Belarus and Ukraine to get what they want.
Whatever happens it will not end up well and will probably will be far worse from what we have seen so far.
Escalation is going nowhere, and the only path left for escalation are nukes.
@PVTJoeSnuffy666@War_Radar2 You think that wont reach us? You are insane if you think nuclear war wont escalate globally.
Drop a nuke these days and someone for sure would follow suit.
Or drop a bigger bomb. They already dropped a nuclear capable missile without a warhead. Next step is to put a small nuclear device on that missile.
That would mean the end for Russia, even China will not support them anymore. Imo that's what Nato wants. Oh Russia is also willing to sacrifice Belarus. That way Europe gets what they want and Russia too.
Rightly so. I have my doubts this will change the course of the war though.
None of these lunatics can afford peace.
Ukraine is Nato, unofficially, and as soon as there is a ceasefire the other EU armies would get into Ukraine. Russia knows that and that's why they want all territory east of the river. But they cant get it and Ukraine cant get it back either.
Natonwant Russia to launch a small nuclear attack because that would mean Russia will turn into a pariah state, and that would be the end of Russia. But at what price?
@HorvathDezider@joni_askola Yep, mobilization wont happen. It will eacalate into more and more bombs until a nuke is launched. There is no other way to end this war.
True and that's why it wont happen. This war is going nowhere. Russia cant get more territory and Ukraine cant reclaim it either. The bombs will just keep droping more and more.
The only way to stop this is for Russia to drop a nuke, and that would mean the end for them. They probably wont get nuked back, but it would make them a pariah state that even China cant afford to defend.
This will not end up well for the world.
True and that's why it wont happen. Instead the war will escalate with more and more missiles hitting more and civilians sites, that's already happening from both sides.
Russia cant get more territory and Ukraine cant reclaim it either, this shit will go on for a while until someone drops a nuke or something.
This is insane, the next step in escalation are nukes. The world is doomed. None of these lunatics cant afford peace.
Russia cant afford to lose, if they do that would mean the end of Russia ans they wont allow it.
Ukraine (nato) cant afford it to lose either, it would also mean the end of Ukraine.
Peace cant be reached, Ukraine wont be able to reclaim their territory, they dont have the man power and Russia wants the remaining of the territory east of the river which they can't get. Also if there is a ceasefire the Euros will move into Russia and the ruskies won't allow that.
So peace cant be achieved by means of escalation, and none of them is willing to stop the war and draw new borders.
The war will go on and on until someone drops a nuke or something similar.
There is no other way. The world is fucked.
@BohuslavskaKate So you guys ok with a small nuclear exchange from the Russians? This is insane. Drop a nuke these days and someone would follow suit right away.
@GordonGChang That doesn't make any sense. They still hold 20% of their territory and still have a ton of nukes. Am I the only one cheering for peace? Why does everyone wants Russia to drop a nuke? This is insane.
@Oct7NeverForget Damn idk if you guys need it and tbh i dont care about you or the ruskies, but that doesn't scare you? Russia would nuke you if you do get a nuke. All these wars are out of control, the world is doomed...
Thats not the point, I am simply saying everyone wants something free at some point. Even if its just a piece of bread.
My argument is that people often says they would rather do this and that because blablabla, but thats not true.
When it comes to money, everyone wants a free lunch at some point in life.