Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦

I pray we focus more on God and together we can do all things by His will.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

An argument for why TAG doesn't depend on circular reasoning:

P1: Reality in itself is beyond all comprehension (ipsum esse subsistens, The One).

P2: But reality is also fully comprehensible (The Logos).

P3: If these are two competing realities, then the relation between them obtains for no reason (something from nothing).

P4: There cannot be something from nothing (ex nihilo nihil fit).

C1: Both The One and The Logos are Ultimate Reality (the fullness of being) without competition.

P5: If one can be reduced to the other, then either everything is necessary or nothing exists.

P6: Everything is not necessary.

P7: Things exist.

C2: The relation between The One and The Logos is itself a distinct, irreducible, co-maximal hypostasis (maximally filled by a distinction of its own).

P8: Any other element would either compete with The One, make reality not rational all the way down, or generate an infinite regress of relations.

P9: Nothing can compete with The One.

P10: Reality is rational all the way down.

P11: Infinite incomprehensibilities cannot obtain.

C3: Exactly three co-equal, co-eternal hypostases must be Ultimate Reality without competition (this is the basics orthodox Trinitarian metaphysics)

P12: If a being has worth, it is worth its due.

P13: All beings are not worth the same amount of due at all times (though all persons have intrinsic value, over and above mere objects).

C4: There is a ranked hierarchy of worth according to the quality of being.

P14: Maximal being instantiates maximal quality in all respects.

C5: Maximal Being has maximal worth; no other being can compete with its due.

P15: If a being is due everything, it is proper to call it God.

P16: Maximal Being is due everything.

C6: It is proper to call the being at the center of orthodox Trinitarian metaphysics God.

(Forgotten Premise): For a thing to be comprehensible, it must have a relation to its negation. It must be not-that, and not-nothing.

P19: If the Logos is forced into a relation to its own negation, then Ultimate Reality is negation.

P20: Negation is not ultimate (even after the heat death of the universe that cold dead state will still be being).

C7: The Logos is not forced into its relation to negation.

P20: For any being due worth: it possesses its relations by act of will iff it is not forced/necessitated.

C7: The Logos relates to its own negation by a free act of will.

P21: A being of intrinsic value that has a will is a person.

C8: God is personal (three Persons in one Being).

P22: Maximal Being obtains in all possible worlds.

P23: It is rational to have logical certainty of realities which obtain in all possible worlds.

C9: It is rational to have logical certainty of the triune God of apostolic Christianity.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 Tbf you are clearly trying to use it fairly. That's rare. ANd that's very commendable. But you still think it's a thinker. It's a faltterer. It's a yes man made incarnate.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 Look lady, I don't want to burst your bubble but unless you've been asking me for test tubes this whole time, you just don't understand how these robots work. It's not a real thinker. It's a word magician.

https://t.co/Zrb50Pp1jI

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 lol

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 I feel like you’re asking me how this argument gets to the resurrection and it doesn’t intend to.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 The changing would be happening on your end. It was originally the Christian God. You have the free will to change that if you want.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 You are the one arguing about the label. It’s a literal word-concept fallacy.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@SydMarchkg @MadelaineLucyH Empirical experience, I said. I didn't say they had done statistics on it.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@WisdomHasBuilt @EddieJamro84189 There is at least one Church Father who makes this identification in the fourth century. The eastern Fathers hadn't or had barely even worked out whether revelation was cannon or not.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 Everything would be necessary or nothing would exist. Neither of those conform to reality.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 The only competitor would be an ontology that looks exactly like it. Are you being dense on purpose, serious question? Do you understand that if two things share an indiscernible identity it's reasonable to call them the same thing?

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 It's not that I prefer Christianity. It's that it's silly to not call it Christianity. It's like a reverse no true Scotsman fallacy. The all true Scotsman fallacy. Everyone could claim to be a true Scotsman, therefore, they are.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@WisdomHasBuilt @EddieJamro84189 Because the Marian fulfillment is by typology not by analogue. Here, anguish could refer to the fears and trepidations she had bringing such a wonderful gift into the world or to her pains at the Cross when it is said "Behold your mother" and thus she gives birth to the Chruch.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@antitheistdad @darkprof That's why we call worshipping anything but The Good itself idolatry. We aren't the standard of Good. It's about unity in truth.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

I think the argument from "I mean, come on," should have more oomph than it does, in reference to Jesus, because it does. Why should you believe in Jesus? I mean, come on. I know you COULD say that about anyone, but your heart knows it only applies to Him.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

Either being or the logos would collapse one into the other and therefore we would have no knowledge, morals, etc. We couldn't account for the One and the many.

We have those conditions, therefore, Christianity is true. Yes, other systems claim to give an account, but they all sacrifice one side for the other, and they have to because if you make the Holy Spirit equal to God then you're just talking about Christianity.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

Are you asking me "If the world contains X, then only a triune God can explain X; secular ontology cannot."

I can answer that but only given the standard that one COULD secularize anything if they wanted to. Nothing is logically stopping that. Academics will look you dead in the face and pretend Kant was an atheist.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@antitheistdad @darkprof But the standard of your consciousness is yourself. The theistic hypothesis is that the standard is a higher power; the Good itself. It's a hypothesis of humility.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 A triune God being necessary for a correct ontology. And according to my argument, it is.

[Godful Marxism ☦️🇻🇦 @CatholicCo200]

@Ausbloke93 Does truth mean what comports with reality? Then per my argument, Christianity does that.