@DoorDashThomist This is not even remotely what either debater was referring to. The catholic dude said the church was once invisible but is now visible. Vatican two just states there are two senses of church. The actual physical body of the church and the invisible which is all Holy Spirit stuff
@DaT_Boi313@JayDyer People want to point out how Jay was being so mean! But completely ignore the fact that this dude is straight up wrong lmao. There was never any belief that the church was invisible and became visible or vice versa and no Leo most certainly did not “say the same thing”