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@tombos21 What happens here when people get bigger stacks than 7bb? Is it a 7bb cap then? How did you increase the blinds?

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@tombos21 Still, it is purely governed by the same rules, but people doesnt like the idea of having to do maths I think ;)

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@tombos21 So it undelines your point. It is surprising how inept really good players with skin in the game is at applying a known theory that they have seen work in one poker game, to another poker game.

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@tombos21 It absolutely applies, but it is a very commonly held opinion among both pros and recs that NLSD is a game where the only thing you can do is stare the other guy into the soul. After all, everyone can have any hand at any point in that game, since there are no flops (they argue)

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@DominikNitsche All good, best of luck

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@sheetspwns @TheGrinder44 Not how ICM works, but maybe I am just getting baited

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@MariaHo If Mizrachi makes the final table it would the the second time he FTs main AND wins the PPC in the same year

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@scott_seiver And, for what its worth, if I add tiny amounts of random fds to OOPs range the solver bets them all some amount of the time

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@scott_seiver Tried giving the players some ranges (which in itself is not easy in such a weird spot), and solved them in Monker. In the few examples I tried, if OOP was betting at all (only uses tiny sizes) JTdd is in there a decent amount.

Also, checked to IP also starts betting them non-0%

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@scott_seiver @_TheWhiteLion__ Honestly, this spot makes my head hurt. But it seems to me that you are describing a situation where the JT guy gets to bet lots of low pairs and ace highs (+nutted hands), and then it makes a lot of sense to me that a solver would put some other hand classes in there aswell.

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@scott_seiver @_TheWhiteLion__ Mostly agree, this what the range mostly need to consist of. But I dont think the KK no blinds analogy fits very well here. You are describing a range that consists of both value and bluffs, and in the KK example we only have value.

Would a solver bet 0% low fds here you think?

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@GERPEZZZ @scott_seiver @_TheWhiteLion__ Now, because of the dry sidepot thing, the bluffs are probably mostly hands that can beat the allin player, so maybe not that many fds gets in there. But probably some.

At the very least, playing this spot as if the KK no blinds analogy is fitting, cant be correct in theory.

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@GERPEZZZ @scott_seiver @_TheWhiteLion__ If you were talking about the river.

On the flop, if you only bet very strong hands, then your opponent must fold Qx-. But then it becomes pretty nice to bet (bluff) low pairs, or ace highs. And if you construct a range this way, then at least some draws should prob be included.

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@scott_seiver @_TheWhiteLion__ If this is the same as raising KK with no blinds, should you bet anything but the nuts on the river in a dry sidepot?

It should be pretty easy to argue that this cant be the case in GTO.

Same for the flop betting strat. That range cant ONLY consist of hands that are strong now.

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@TobiasLeknes @SavagePoker @RealKidPoker Cant remember, something like

JQTK92384756A

Probably depends on the number of players on the table.

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@gordoMG @roemischers I would argue that the reason you are not doing this is not because of how difficult it is to play your own range, but because it would need to entail the belief that the opener plays such a bad strategy vs 3bets that you can just 3bet every D1 (e.g. KQ855) vs them profitably.

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