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🚨 "The real story of Islam and... Christianity is not what we were told... People need to know this." – @RaymondIbrahim5
This discussion was a mind-melter for me. Highly recommend checking out this full episode of @TheLiveFreePod 🔥
While I understand that there are many beautiful teachings and wise words in the Talmud that reflect the teaching of Jesus, and much of Old Testament Judaism and the written law obviously reflects what is in the Talmud, it's the parts that are different that seem like they would create a problem with calling them "fundamentally" the same.
As a Messianic Jew, don't you believe that the Old Testament effectively points to and even features Yeshua HaMashiach in the Old Testament? Would you agree that the Talmud fundamentally rejects Yeshua as the Messiah? Or even that the Messiah would be the son of God (I feel like I've seen you post about that before). If so, how are the two fundamentally the same.
Similar yes, but with a few fundamental differences is how I would think of them.
I completely agree. I just made a post about this. Yeshua didn't come to institute a new religion, He came to fulfill the law and prophecies of the one He and His Father already enacted, and lead it into the next chapter. I wrote this from a Christian perspective, but I would love to a Messianic Jew's opinion on it:
https://t.co/orXzNCdu1w
Because of a recent post from @jordanbpeterson, there's currently a ton of people arguing (especially on X) about whether the Bible, and many of the Old Testament characters in it - like Moses and King David - were Jewish (the religion) or Christian. Obviously the descendants of Abraham were ethnically Jewish, but as far as the the religion goes, here's my hot take on it:
It's all just different phases of the same plan. One singular plan from God documented at different points in history - you don't have to pick a side as it's all the same thing. Let me explain what I mean:
The final books of the Old Testament (like Malachi and Nehemiah) were written around 400 BC. This concluded the era of ancient prophets. Between this period of the ancient prophets (who communicated God's words and wishes to Israel) and the birth of the Messiah, there was silence from God, as in there were no new directions, laws, prophecies, or scriptures given by God during this time. While God was silent, people started to act as self-proclaimed speakers for God. However, often times they were doing just the opposite.
These people that started to speak as self-proclaimed communicators for God were called Pharisees. They claimed that God gave Moses both a written Torah (the first 5 books of the Bible) and an Oral Torah (spoken traditions). In the vacuum of leadership during that time, the Pharisees moved into power, focusing on teaching the law in local meeting places (synagogues). Eventually, the Pharisees wrote down their spoken laws and traditions (this was just man made stuff - NOT divinely inspired - just man's opinions). This collection of writings eventually became known as the Talmud.
When Yeshua the Messiah was born, He always honored, supported, and taught from the Torah (the Bible given to man by Himself and His Father) but over and over again contradicted and pushed back against the spoken traditions (the Oral Torah) taught by the Pharisees. For instance, He rebelled hard against the sexist teachings of the Rabbis that prevented women from being disciples or reading the Torah, and legalistic things like strict hand-washing rituals (just to name a few).
Jesus told his followers to listen to the Pharisees when they taught the WRITTEN word, but not to copy their bad actions. Jesus believed that God's written laws were perfect, but he had no patience for man-made traditions that replaced God's true message. Jesus didn't come to start a new religion. He came to fulfill the laws of the one He already enacted and usher in the next chapter of it. He pushed back against the false teachings that had become accepted in it, and worked to set it back on the right path.
After Jesus fulfilled the law and prophecies with His death, burial, and resurrection, the TRUE JEWS committed to following Him and His teachings into the next chapter of History. This sect of Jews still identified as Jewish, but considered themselves Jewish followers of The Way. In the early years of Christianity, all Christians were just Jews who followed Yeshua. Jews and Christians were the same thing - they weren't contradictory. It was normal to be both.
The problem arose when FAKE RELIGIOUS JEWS hijacked Judaism and resisted the correction that Jesus brought to it, and went on to form the Talmud with their broken oral traditions and reject the teachings of Christ. The world made the mistake of labeling that rebellious group "the Jews" while ostracizing the the actual God-recognized Jews who properly followed Christ into the next chapter of the religion after the law had been fulfilled. And we know that God recognizes the TRUE (RELIGIOUS) JEWS as those who follow Christ, because in Revelations 2:9 He very explicitly implies such.
I don't have a problem with the label or the religion of Christianity (as I am one), and I don't think God has a problem with it either. I'm proud to be known as a Christian. However, I don't believe Christ came to institute a new religion. I believe true religious Jews (the one's that God recognizes) and Christians are all the same thing. Call it what you what want, but true God-recognized Judaism followed Jesus and His teachings into the new era, the door was opened to gentiles, and the man-made label of Christian was eventually put on all of us.
Some may say that Christianity is just a sect of Judaism that follows Jesus, others may say that Messianic Judaism is just a denomination of Christianity. Personally, I believe both are true, although it's not popular with either group to say that.
Now, I also believe that ETHNIC Jews, even those that don't believe in Christ, still have covenants with God concerning land, a nation, and their descendants enduring - but that's a different post for a different time.
Because of a recent post from @jordanbpeterson, there's currently a ton of people arguing (especially on X) about whether the Bible, and many of the Old Testament characters in it - like Moses and King David - were Jewish (the religion) or Christian. Obviously the descendants of Abraham were ethnically Jewish, but as far as the the religion goes, here's my hot take on it:
It's all just different phases of the same plan. One singular plan from God documented at different points in history - you don't have to pick a side as it's all the same thing. Let me explain what I mean:
The final books of the Old Testament (like Malachi and Nehemiah) were written around 400 BC. This concluded the era of ancient prophets. Between this period of the ancient prophets (who communicated God's words and wishes to Israel) and the birth of the Messiah, there was silence from God, as in there were no new directions, laws, prophecies, or scriptures given by God during this time. While God was silent, people started to act as self-proclaimed speakers for God. However, often times they were doing just the opposite.
These people that started to speak as self-proclaimed communicators for God were called Pharisees. They claimed that God gave Moses both a written Torah (the first 5 books of the Bible) and an Oral Torah (spoken traditions). In the vacuum of leadership during that time, the Pharisees moved into power, focusing on teaching the law in local meeting places (synagogues). Eventually, the Pharisees wrote down their spoken laws and traditions (this was just man made stuff - NOT divinely inspired - just man's opinions). This collection of writings eventually became known as the Talmud.
When Yeshua the Messiah was born, He always honored, supported, and taught from the Torah (the Bible given to man by Himself and His Father) but over and over again contradicted and pushed back against the spoken traditions (the Oral Torah) taught by the Pharisees. For instance, He rebelled hard against the sexist teachings of the Rabbis that prevented women from being disciples or reading the Torah, and legalistic things like strict hand-washing rituals (just to name a few).
Jesus told his followers to listen to the Pharisees when they taught the WRITTEN word, but not to copy their bad actions. Jesus believed that God's written laws were perfect, but he had no patience for man-made traditions that replaced God's true message. Jesus didn't come to start a new religion. He came to fulfill the laws of the one He already enacted and usher in the next chapter of it. He pushed back against the false teachings that had become accepted in it, and worked to set it back on the right path.
After Jesus fulfilled the law and prophecies with His death, burial, and resurrection, the TRUE JEWS committed to following Him and His teachings into the next chapter of History. This sect of Jews still identified as Jewish, but considered themselves Jewish followers of The Way. In the early years of Christianity, all Christians were just Jews who followed Yeshua. Jews and Christians were the same thing - they weren't contradictory. It was normal to be both.
The problem arose when FAKE RELIGIOUS JEWS hijacked Judaism and resisted the correction that Jesus brought to it, and went on to form the Talmud with their broken oral traditions and reject the teachings of Christ. The world made the mistake of labeling that rebellious group "the Jews" while ostracizing the the actual God-recognized Jews who properly followed Christ into the next chapter of the religion after the law had been fulfilled. And we know that God recognizes the TRUE (RELIGIOUS) JEWS as those who follow Christ, because in Revelations 2:9 He very explicitly implies such.
I don't have a problem with the label or the religion of Christianity (as I am one), and I don't think God has a problem with it either. I'm proud to be known as a Christian. However, I don't believe Christ came to institute a new religion. I believe true religious Jews (the one's that God recognizes) and Christians are all the same thing. Call it what you what want, but true God-recognized Judaism followed Jesus and His teachings into the new era, the door was opened to gentiles, and the man-made label of Christian was eventually put on all of us.
Some may say that Christianity is just a sect of Judaism that follows Jesus, others may say that Messianic Judaism is just a denomination of Christianity. Personally, I believe both are true, although it's not popular with either group to say that.
Now, I also believe that ETHNIC Jews, even those that don't believe in Christ, still have covenants with God concerning land, a nation, and their descendants enduring - but that's a different post for a different time.
OR the obvious fact that we all see the same thing.
This is like an entire community pointing to the town square burning down while saying, "fire" and then someone accusing them of being part of a coordinated op... Such an obviously disingenuous take. People are not this stupid.
"Exposure ministry" is a new term I've been hearing lately... honestly the term sends chills down my spine as it just feels gross, and typically I would assign a red flag to anyone claiming to operate in "exposure ministry" as their calling/gifting. However, the idea of exposing frauds is something that I fully support, AND something that I think the church is REQUIRED to do.
On one hand, I think the body of Christ needs more accountability. For too long the church has just swept scandal, addiction, and hidden sin under the rug in the name of "honoring God's anointed" and "respecting our leaders". This has empowered predators to create victims. This is evil, and it should be exposed. Protecting predators and fraudsters is neither respect nor honor. It's just darkness and evil. Leaders are to be held to the highest standards.
On the other hand, I see people who claim to operate in "exposure ministry" who are just bitter and angry people, full of unforgiveness, playing the part of the "accuser of the brethren" (that's literally satan's title). They dig up any and all mistakes (that every human being has) to discredit their target's sincere work for God. This is also evil... I don't want to be an accuser of the brethren, and I don't want to support anyone who operates like that. I also don't want to support those who actively cover up evil. So I'm really not sure what to make of this new trend.
I think it's a fine line between Holy Spirit led exposure out of a sincere desire to see the body of Christ be healthy, versus bitter people trying to destroy others out of their rage and resentment. There is a massive difference. If I see someone exposing in a way that calls someone to repentance and offers a hand up, or that is sincerely protecting victims from abuse or fraud, then I champion it. However, if I see an angry person just trying to destroy someone - they get a red flag, obviously.
What are your thoughts on it?
@yoalexrapz I hope that you release the footage. If that happened, the truth should be known.
When I was Muslim, man, this verse used to mess me up.
Jesus on the cross saying, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
As a Muslim, I used to think: how does God feel forsaken by God? That sounds like weakness. That sounds like a prophet in pain.
But then I dug deeper.
And I realized Jesus was not speaking randomly. He was quoting Psalm 22.
That entire Psalm, written by King David centuries before Christ, is a prophecy about the crucifixion:
“They pierce my hands and feet.”
“They divide my garments among them.”
“All who see me mock me.”
In Jewish culture, quoting the first line of a Psalm pointed people to the entire passage.
So Jesus was not crying out in confusion.
He was declaring fulfillment.
He was saying: “This is that.”
And at the same time, He was carrying the full weight of sin, shame, abandonment, and suffering for humanity.
Every moment humanity has cried out, “God, where are you?” Christ stepped into that pain Himself.
That is not weakness.
That is intentional.
That is prophecy unfolding in real time.
That is the King bleeding on purpose so humanity could be brought near to God.
That is the Gospel.
Seeing as how God, the creator of earth and all land, and the only entity who truly has a "right" to give away land, seeing as how He is it's ultimate owner, gave the land indefinitely to Israel. So, Israel is actually the ONLY nation who truly has a right to exist. No other nation was given it's land by the creator of the land. Israel is different from all other nations in that way and shouldn't be compared to other nations. They do have a RIGHT to exist.
This poor boy was running away from someone who stabbed him & stole his phone, but the police in the UK attacked him instead of his murderer!
I was honored to lead a prayer of rededication at today’s @Freedom250 Rededicate250 event on the National Mall.
Just as 56 brave men dedicated this land in the Lord’s name at our nation’s founding, we rededicate the United States as “One Nation Under God” as we mark 250 years of American independence. 🇺🇸🙏🏼
I AM UNDONE
MERCY
The church has held people in slavery with bitterness, unforgiveness, and on the day of Jubilee, you release all your slaves. Lift your hands, and I want you to say, "God, I forgive those. I forgive those who have betrayed." God, we ask you, God, what you said at the cross, "Father, forgive them," loose that anointing right now.
Release a wave of mercy, a wave of forgiveness that's stronger than the accuser of the brethren.
We stand in covenant with the people of God, the chosen people of God, the Jewish peoples. We stand in covenant with you. Show us mercy. Lift your hands.
And I want you to declare a dream that I had, that the president was elected, and on this Mall, there was a great gathering as far as you could see, and this people began chanting, "Revival, revival." Would you begin to chant, "Revival. Revival, God. Revival"
@LouEngle #Rededication250
Marco Rubio draws a direct line between Christianity and the founding of America during a speech at the “Rededicate 250” prayer event in Washington, D.C.
Before the Christian West, Rubio says, most civilizations viewed history as an endless cycle “only to end up back where it began.”
“But our faith calls us outwards into the limitless darkness of the unknown,” he says. "It tells us to go forth and preach the gospel to the world as a witness unto all nations unto the ends of the Earth."
"From that command, came America."
@JosiahForYeshua I've never heard that perspective shared before. Very enlightening.
When I try to get Jews to believe that Yeshua is the Messiah, I’m not trying to convert Jews to following a different god or a different religion. That has been the heresy perpetuated by Christianity for most of the last two millennia, but it’s not the Messianic faith which came from Yeshua Himself. The Jesus of Christianity which our forefathers detested—the second part of a three-faced god, who hated Jews and wanted his followers to convert Jewish infidels on pain of death—has absolutely nothing to do with the real Yeshua as described in the eyewitness accounts and teachings of His Jewish disciples in the first century.
My Jewish brothers, I am not trying to convert you. The last thing I want is for more Jews to convert to Christianity, leaving behind the God of Israel and their Jewish heritage. This is exactly why Messianic Jews like me exist: because we refuse to convert, but we do believe with a perfect faith that Yeshua is the Messiah, the Anointed One and Son of the God of Israel. Jews and Christians alike try to claim that I have indeed converted and I am no longer a Jew—and yet here I am, daily practicing my Jewish faith in Yeshua, living according to the Torah of Moses, and refusing to adopt the traditions and institutions of the religion of Christianity.
As I’ve said before, Yeshua is not some new god. Yeshua is the Messiah of Israel—and yes, a manifestation of the fullness of the Deity of the One God (similarly to how we see throughout the Tanakh that God sometimes appears to His people physically in human form)—yet this does not negate that Yeshua is fully human, just like you and me. He is not a man-god, or one part of a multi-god, or a demigod, or an idol. He is a Jew. He is the promised Jewish Messiah, to whom the Father has given all authority in Heaven and on earth, as the prophets foretold (Dan. 7:13-14, cf. 6:27).
Hear O Israel, ADONAI is our God, ADONAI is One, and Yeshua is His Messiah.
“He who hears, let him hear; and he who refuses, let him refuse; for they are a rebellious house.”
— Ezekiel 3:27
Thanks for taking the time to share your understanding. It is very helpful.
One other thing, if you ever happen to have free time. A lot of critics always bring up that Judah is the only tribe left? I have no idea why that even matters. Why does it matter if it's only one tribe or not? However, I also know my bible talks about 12,000 from the 12 tribes for the 144,000. So I don't believe it's true.
However, they always bring up all these random studies and stuff that I've never heard of. I'm not Jewish so I'm not super well-versed on Jewish history. I did see a debate on your feed that you were having the other day that I studied and learned a lot from (so it was not a fruitless endeavor on your part. I learned a lot).
I know the Bible, and I know it points to the 12 tribes enduring, so I just point to that. However, are there any resources or sites you can point me to in order to help me better understand the correct perspective of this debate. There's a lot of info out there, but most of it seems to be garbage. It's hard to find a healthy source.
@jakobe291 Nearly every time I'm defending Israel and the Jews, a critic will bring up the Talmud and the parts where it is disparaging towards the Yeshua the Messiah. How do you handle those arguments?
PG-13 I saw an on-the-street interview where a guy was asking people what they bring to a relationship, and a girl just pointed to her breasts and butt.
That made me sad. Any single ladies out there, you probably already know this, but you're not going to catch men looking for a committed relationship if all you have to offer is boobs and a vagina. You'll catch a TON of guys just looking for a one night stand, or maybe even a short- term relationship, but not any who are interested in building a life with you or taking you home to meet mama. You will actually drive away the men interested in marriage by carrying yourself as an easy-access woman.
Every guy knows that there is always an insecure girl out there desperate to feel special and have some attention that is willing to "put out" in order to get it. Just boobs and vagina is almost instantly replaceable. Honestly, no guy has to ever spend a night alone. Insecurity in women is unfortunately a raging epidemic, and the vast majority of them do whatever it takes to be noticed and held, even if it's only for a temporary period of time. Why commit to you when he can instantly go get a new fresh set tomorrow?
I know I'm coming across crude, and that is not my intent, but if you want to actually attract a man interested in marriage, then you have to earn his respect, not simply seduce him. He appreciates a curvy body, but he does not inherently respect it, certainly not if you're giving it away. Make yourself hard to get and you'll increase your perceived value. Hard to find things are always more valuable. You'll get less attention because you'll lose the attention of the horny horde, but if you are respectable the attention you get will be from guys willing to back their attention up with commitment and the pursuit of marriage.
So how do you earn his respect? He respects Godly character, accomplishments, work ethic, kindness, intelligence, faithfulness, creativity, talents and abilities, consistency, gentleness, strength, conviction, etc. If THOSE are the types of things you bring to the relationship, then once you hook a man you won't loose him, because he approached you from the beginning recognizing you are someone he can build an empire with, not just someone to use and abuse.
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