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How can #Brexit damage be kept to minimum?
How can truth, respect and proportionality be brought back to British politics?
#StrongerTogether #MakeVotesMatter

[GetReal @CommonSenseOnEU]

@_InfoGram_ @Littlst Results in Hungary demonstrate extent to which voters are sick and tired of Trump/Putin/Orban/Netanyahu "Me First" at your expense #OligarchPolitics, war and destruction
https://t.co/ilUpevTqA6

[Roman Sheremeta 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @rshereme]

Nobel Peace Prize laureate Oleksandra Matviichuk:

Trump promised to end the war in 24 hours. Now he has decided to finance it. These are already the longest 24 hours in human history.

Witkoff called putin a humanitarian. I have interviewed hundreds of people released from russian captivity. They were beaten, raped, locked in wooden boxes, had their fingers cut off, their fingernails ripped out, and were tortured with electric shocks to their genitals. One woman described how her eye was gouged out with a spoon.

What is happening now is an imitation of a peace process.

I met a five-year-old girl in Kyiv. The russians abducted her mother because of her pro-Ukrainian views, tortured her, and repeatedly gang-raped her. They then took her to russia and fabricated a criminal case against her.

The girl hugged me, burst into tears, and began begging: “Please, bring my mommy back.” I am a human rights lawyer, but I have no legal tools to force russia to return her. I hugged the girl and promised that we would fight for her mother.

Journalist Viktoriia Roshchyna was my friend and colleague. She traveled to the occupied territories to tell the truth about russian crimes. She was abducted, tortured, and secretly transferred to russia. She was held without formal charges and without contact with the outside world.

She was denied medical care. She weighed just 30 kilograms. The russians refused to return her body to her parents for six months. When they finally did, several internal organs, her eyes, her brain, and part of her trachea were missing. We still do not know how she died.

Viktoriia believed that the truth could save thousands of lives. That people in other countries, once they learned the truth, would make the right decisions.

My friend and teacher, Professor Ihor Kozlovskyi, spent 700 days in russian captivity. For months, he was held alone in a small, dark basement cell without windows or fresh air. Rats crawled out of the sewer.

He gave philosophy lectures to the rats just to hear a human voice. He was tortured so severely that after his release, he had to learn to walk again.

Kozlovskyi told me: “Everything I have experienced does not make me see myself as a victim. The foundation of our existence is dignity. And dignity is action.”

[Nick Reeves #RejoinEU #NAFO #FBPE @nickreeves9876]

Rubio says security guarantees for Ukraine must also be acceptable to Russia.

Rubio is either clueless or dishonest. The only 'security guarantees' that Russia will accept are ones which will facilitate its imperialist aggression.

Proposing security guarantees acceptable to Russia is like proposing law enforcement measures acceptable to the Mafia or anti-terrorist measures acceptable to ISIS.

The single most effective measure to assure security in Europe is the removal of Putin's puppets, Trump and Vance from the White House.
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[GetReal @CommonSenseOnEU]

Brexit creation of red tape and white elephant costs at taxpayers expense. In addition to unnecessary extra costs and uncertainty for business. @Nigel_Farage @DanielJHannan @BorisJohnson need to be held to account.
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[D.Radka, #NAFO 🇨🇿🤝🇺🇦 @DakdaR22]

- Radoslaw Sikorski- FM of Poland:

"Negotiations with Putin are impossible because his credibility is zero.

....Russia already has treaties with Ukraine. They have a 1990 agreement on recognizing the intra-Soviet border between Ukraine and Russia as the new international border. Russia, remember—not only the United States—but Russia is also a guarantor of Ukraine’s independence and inviolability of borders in the Budapest Memorandum of 1994. And they also have a bilateral border treaty specifically of 2003,

So anything but recovery of the international border requires us to say, well, he broke those treaties, but this one he’s going to honor. Really? If you were a Ukrainian, would you accept that?”

...........

That is exactly how it is..
the Russians violated everything that could possibly be violated🤷‍♀️

including international law!
🧐

[GetReal @CommonSenseOnEU]

High time for a global clean out of immoral kremlin aides....

[Nick Reeves #RejoinEU #NAFO #FBPE @nickreeves9876]

Russell Brand has been convicted, so here is a post on his service to Russia and his friends and defenders including Elon Musk, GB News' Bev Turner, George Galloway, Ramaswamy and Trump's Health Secretary, Robert F Kennedy Jr.

Russell Brand has been found guilty of raping a woman and sexually assaulting three others. Since the allegations became serious Brand has discovered Christianity and parroted Russian propaganda. Trump's Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr is a fan of Brand, as well as being a friend of Russian asset and convicted pedophile Scott Ritter.

Among those who leapt up to defend Brand are Elon Musk, George Galloway, now residing in Moscow, GB News presenter Bev Turner, who has posted plenty of pro-Russian messages on X, Malaysian Putin tool Ian Miles Cheong, whose account has been repeatedly boosted by Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, and many others. Indeed Brand's supporters are a pretty good cross-section of Russia's influence network.

George Galloway has had pedophile Scott Ritter on his MOATS show several times. These friends of Russia don't seem to have any problem with pedophilia and sexual crimes. Steve Bannon remained in close contact with Epstein after the latter's 2008 conviction. Farage thanked Bannon for his help winning the Brexit referendum, and of course Farage said that Andrew Tate was an important voice for men.
https://t.co/CWHIQH73TN

[Gavin Barwell @GavinBarwell]

Big lesson for UK right from US midterm elections

Strong border control and removing migrants who have committed serious crimes is very popular

Removing people who have lived here for years, integrated and broken no laws is deeply unpopular

[GetReal @CommonSenseOnEU]

When will the US media clearly explain the reality of what is happening in Ukraine, the hypocrisy, inhumanity and corruption of the Trump administration, and the URGENT need to change approach to Ukraine? Take inspiration from Caolan and get reporting! @PressClubDC @pa @Reuters

[Caolan @CaolanReports]

There’s no water or power in Kyiv because russia is trying to cause Europe’s biggest humanitarian disaster. Millions of people live in Kyiv.

And Putin’s envoy Dmitriev is standing at a podium in the White House describing russia as a great humanitarian nation.

[Caolan @CaolanReports]

There’s no water or power in Kyiv because russia is trying to cause Europe’s biggest humanitarian disaster. Millions of people live in Kyiv.

And Putin’s envoy Dmitriev is standing at a podium in the White House describing russia as a great humanitarian nation.

[Michael Walton @michaelwal6347]

@VictorKvert2008 Unbelievable he says! What is unbelievable is that the laws of these United States have allowed a mentally ill individual to stay in office and destroy so many things. We need feasible RECALL PETITIONS for all public officials including the judiciary!

[распад и неуважение @VictorKvert2008]

«Невероятно… невероятно», бормотал Трамп

Появились любопытные подробности того, как сам Дональд Трамп и его ближайшее окружение переживало тотальный разгром республиканцев на выборах.

Президент наблюдал за подсчётом голосов в своей резиденции в Белом доме, вместе с главой аппарата Сьюзи Уайлс и помощницей Натали Харп. Тем временем в Восточном зале, где собрались министры и советники, становилось всё мрачнее. По сведениям Daily Mail, к 23 часам Трамп практически перестал разговаривать.

«Он смотрит Fox News, едва произнося хоть слово, словно парализованный молчанием», рассказал источник, близкий к президенту.

По другим данным, Трамп время от времени прерывал молчание, бормоча: «Невероятно, невероятно…»

Правда, позднее Трамп всё-таки разговорился: начал обвинять проигравших кандидатов, телеканал Fox News и уверять, что сам он тут ни при чём, поскольку его имени не было в бюллетенях. Но всё это делалось в каком-то вялом и подавленном тоне, без огонька.

4 ноября, после разгрома республиканцев, Трамп внезапно собрал журналистов на строительной площадке своего бального зала в Белом доме. Вместо привычной политической брани он почти двадцать минут увлечённо рассказывал о коринфских колоннах, мраморных полах, люстрах и подземной кухне. Сам признался, что строительство его успокаивает.

Илон Маск, вложивший в республиканскую избирательную кампанию почти полмиллиарда
долларов, занялся несколько неожиданным делом: начал удалять собственные предвыборные публикации. Исчез призыв «Голосуйте за республиканцев сегодня!», а также закреплённый пост от 29 октября, в котором Маск объяснял, почему необходимо голосовать за республиканских сенаторов.

Но самая любопытная реакция последовала от вице-президента Джей Ди Вэнса. Он опубликовал совершенно необычное для администрации Трампа заявление, прямо связав поражение республиканцев с политикой Белого дома.

Reuters и Axios отмечают, что выступление вице-президента застало сотрудников Белого дома врасплох.

Любопытно, однако, что он повторил… тезисы русского фашиста Дугина. Назвав главными причинами поражения войну с Ираном и слишком зависимые отношения с Израилем.

Фашик Дугин вчера фактически поставил на Вэнса, который может стать президентом без всяких выборов в случае смерти Трампа.

Реальные причины поражения Вэнс не упомянул. Тогда как американцы недвусмысленно их называли: коррупция в администрации Трампа и его ничем не ограниченная власть. Тем более не упомянул заигрывания Трампа с русским фюрером, которые вызвали раскол в республиканской партии.

Примечательно, что заявление Вэнса поддержал Трамп-младший: «Подписываюсь под каждым словом на сто процентов».

Впрочем, Трампу-младшему стоит беспокоиться не о связях Вашингтона с Израилем, а про его собственные связи с криминалом из путинского общака Умаром Кремлёвым. Сейчас, после убедительной победы демократов, уклониться от расследования будет невозможно.

[GetReal @CommonSenseOnEU]

@CharlesTannock Key will be for decent elected Republicans to join with other elected reps to rein Trump in before he does even more damage to democracy, solidarity and peace in the world!

[Gandalv @Microinteracti1]

Dear MAGA, let me explain something.
You have been taught that anything with the word social in it is communism. It isn’t. Social Security isn’t communism. Medicare isn’t communism. And neither is the public school your children attend or the fire department that saves your house.

Norway and Denmark are capitalist countries. People own businesses, buy houses, make fortunes, invest in stocks and own guns. The difference is that their governments make capitalism work for ordinary people, not just billionaires.

Here is what that means in everyday life. You get cancer. You receive treatment without facing a ruinous hospital bill. Your wife has a baby. She gets months of paid parental leave. Your child wants to attend university. Tuition is free at public universities for eligible students.

You work hard. You get five weeks of paid vacation. You lose your job. There is a safety net to help you get back on your feet And none of this requires giving up your house, your truck, your religion or your freedom.

Now here is the part you really need to understand.

You are already paying taxes. The question is what you get back.

In Europe, more of that money comes back to ordinary families through healthcare, education and financial security.

In America, politicians have convinced millions of working people that asking for those things is socialism, while demanding lower taxes for billionaires is freedom.

You have been persuaded to fight against benefits you would personally enjoy, in order to protect fortunes you will never possess.

Elon Musk does not need you to defend his wallet. Your family needs you to defend yours.

[GetReal @CommonSenseOnEU]

@danwootton Good riddance. Nothing huge about firing someone who spreads hate, lies and prejudice.

[Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський @ZelenskyyUa]

We have intel that Russia is preparing a new massive attack on our country – primarily targeting energy and logistics. The assumption is basically that tomorrow the world will be watching the American midterms, and what is happening here in Ukraine, along with our difficulties with air defense and Patriot missiles, will be overlooked.

We need signals from the world to Russia that will make them feel that terror is no good, that it will bring no gains, and that as long as this war continues, their oil will burn, and they will not be able to make money doing business with the world. We must not play games with Russia’s oil or gas revenues. We must put pressure on Russia in such a way that it has no alternative but to end this war. America can do this.

[Richard Corbett @RichardGCorbett]

I’m fed up with certain politicians saying we need to “respect” the result of the 2016 Brexit referendum.

A decision by a narrow majority 10yrs ago that turned out to be a disaster does not have to be respected.

If a democracy cannot change its mind it ceases to be a democracy.

[GetReal @CommonSenseOnEU]

@juneslater17 I sure dont like Alison Pearson. he world would be a better place without her prejudice and failure to look at facts rather than stoke fears and hatred. The new owners would do the country a favour if they could reduce the spread of lies, fear and hatemongering via @Telegraph

[GetReal @CommonSenseOnEU]

@tomhfh @RichardBentall Britain would not be surrendering sovereignty, but regaining it. Regaining it's seat at the decision making table. Influencing decisions affecting the whole continent and beyond.

[Mike Galsworthy @mikegalsworthy]

It’s my view - and I don’t feel the slightest pessimism about it. I’m deeply optimistic about Europe as a whole and as a team.

The morose framing is your own. I’ve never subscribed to this notion that being a member of the EU is some sort of victimhood. Especially for a hugely influential country like ours. For many countries, joining the EU was their liberation from tyranny- and now east to west we’re seeing over two dozen countries work together day in day out on shared issues - with their citizens and small business empowered by extra freedoms to work, trade, live across borders with ease.

As a scientist I’ve seen the shared European structures at their best - liberating scientists all over the continent (and world now) to work together… and pooling resource to support science at vast scale to crack problems that need scale.

Brexit was framed as a liberation from oppression. It has been anything but. In the vain search for a purist form of “liberty” from the straw man monster of our neighbourhood friends, we have ripped liberties and powers away from our own citizens and businesses- hemming them in and telling them to themselves find the benefits of blowing off our foot. That’s no freedom.

Look, I’m a scientist so I can’t begrudge experimentation. What I do object to is this new religion of reflexively slagging off everything European… and so a determination to do our own continent down in the vain hope that this will validate restrictions we imposed on ourselves. Without reassessing where we are. With the US, Russia & China in aggressive flux, I see huge opportunities for the UK and Europe and CANZUK all together as a team. A lot is going to happen over the next decade(s) and I want us with the right team (Europe & Commonwealth) at the juncture of it all. Despite all the dangers lurking in the world at this time, my view is fundamentally very, very optimistic of what we can be.

[Fabio Lazza @Fabopolis]

Sempre fantastica @anneapplebaum , su The Atlantic, racconta una vicenda che dovrebbe preoccupare parecchio gli europei.
Provo ad allargare questo concetto

L’amministrazione Trump sembra ormai impegnata a interferire negli equilibri politici dei Paesi alleati, favorendo le destre nazionaliste e populiste. Dalla Germania alla Polonia, fino alla Romania, emergono episodi che vanno ben oltre le normali simpatie politiche tra governi.

A mio avviso, dietro questa condotta potrebbe esserci una logica piuttosto precisa.

Per indebolire l’Europa non occorre distruggere l’Unione europea. Basta renderla incapace di decidere.

È sufficiente favorire governi nazionalisti, reciprocamente diffidenti, ostili all’integrazione e più interessati al proprio consenso interno che alla costruzione di una forza politica europea.

Il paradosso è evidente: partiti che denunciano quotidianamente le interferenze di Bruxelles sembrano assai meno scandalizzati quando a interferire nella politica nazionale è Washington.

Ma la questione va oltre le contraddizioni del sovranismo.

Gli Stati Uniti chiedono all’Europa di spendere di più per la difesa e di assumersi maggiori responsabilità militari. Contemporaneamente, però, sostengono forze politiche che ostacolano proprio quella cooperazione indispensabile per costruire un’autentica autonomia strategica europea.

È una contraddizione oppure risponde a un interesse preciso?

Un’Europa che aumenta le spese militari, acquista armamenti americani ma rimane politicamente frammentata potrebbe essere esattamente ciò che una parte di Washington desidera: alleati che sostengano maggiori costi senza diventare un soggetto geopolitico autonomo.

Non sono convinto che esista necessariamente un grande piano coordinato. Trump, gli ideologi del MAGA e determinati interessi economici possono perseguire obiettivi differenti, producendo però il medesimo risultato.

E sarebbe altrettanto ingenuo attribuire ogni successo del populismo alle interferenze straniere. La mediocrità di buona parte della classe politica europea, la sua incapacità di affrontare problemi reali e la continua ricerca del consenso immediato hanno preparato il terreno.

Su questo terreno lavora da anni anche la Russia, alimentando divisioni, sfiducia nelle istituzioni e ostilità verso il progetto europeo. Mosca ha tutto l’interesse a indebolire la coesione occidentale, soprattutto quando questa si traduce in sostegno all’Ucraina.

E intanto la Cina osserva, tratta con i singoli governi, sfrutta le loro rivalità e conquista pezzi di influenza economica, industriale e tecnologica. Un’Europa divisa offre a Pechino possibilità negoziali che un’Europa compatta potrebbe limitare.

Tre potenze con interessi differenti, talvolta persino contrapposti, possono dunque beneficiare della stessa debolezza europea. Non occorre immaginare una regia comune per comprenderne gli effetti.

La cosa più inquietante è che una parte della politica europea sembra collaborare volontariamente alla propria irrilevanza, convinta di difendere la sovranità nazionale mentre riduce la capacità dei propri Paesi di incidere sulle decisioni che contano.

E allora la domanda è semplice: Washington vuole davvero un’Europa più forte oppure un’Europa che paghi di più, compri di più e decida di meno?

E soprattutto, quanto tempo impiegheremo noi europei a capire che nessuna delle grandi potenze ha interesse a regalarci quella forza politica che continuiamo a rifiutarci di costruire?

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[Anna Soubry 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇦🇪🇺🖤🤍 @Anna_Soubry]

.@KemiBadenoch tells @FraserNelson @SkyNews the Conservative Party is united with no member believing we should even consider rejoining the #EU
Really!?
Like all inadequate ideologically driven leaders she forgets its voters not party members who elect Govts. And there are millions of Conservative voters who voted #Remain & now find themselves being embraced by @AndyBurnham & rejected by Badenoch & her party