Civilization spent thousands of years building norms, laws, religions, and social pressure to restrain male novelty. A husband who abandons his family for a younger woman is condemned. A father who chases pleasure over responsibility is shamed. A man who refuses commitment is called immature. Where is the equivalent restraint on female hypergamy? Modern culture tells women to "know your worth," "never settle," and constantly reevaluate whether they can do better. Men are told to govern novelty. Women are told to optimize hypergamy. Then we wonder why pair bonds are collapsing.
@Z4BTC_ The real question isn't who is programmable. It's who is self-aware enough to question the program. Civilization is built by people willing to examine inherited assumptions rather than merely recite them.
Yes. Relationships require sacrifice. Marriage requires commitment. Children require responsibility. A phone requires nothing. Social media gives status without achievement. Porn gives sex without intimacy. Streaming gives entertainment without community. Gaming gives accomplishment without risk.
Yes. Relationships require sacrifice. Marriage requires commitment. Children require responsibility. A phone requires nothing. Social media gives status without achievement. Porn gives sex without intimacy. Streaming gives entertainment without community. Gaming gives accomplishment without risk.
@user17452537254@ChrisWillx The problem isn't merely that average men earn less. It's that the standard for what counts as "enough" keeps moving upward. No society can sustain strong pair bonds if both economic reality and relational expectations are drifting in opposite directions.
Historically, marriage was not merely the union of two autonomous individuals. It was a covenant witnessed, supported, and protected by families, churches, and communities. One reason modern dating struggles is that we removed nearly all external accountability while increasing optionality.
Historically, marriage was not merely the union of two autonomous individuals. It was a covenant witnessed, supported, and protected by families, churches, and communities. One reason modern dating struggles is that we removed nearly all external accountability while increasing optionality.
The most important insight here is not that women became freer. It's that the mating market became more market-like. For most of history, institutions existed to transform attraction into covenant. Modernity stripped away many of those constraints and replaced them with choice, comparison, and optimization.
@ChrisWillx The question isn't whether hypergamy exists. The question is whether a society can maintain strong pair bonds when one sex is continually encouraged to evaluate partners through the lens of upward mobility rather than covenant.
Civilization spent thousands of years building norms, laws, religions, and social pressure to restrain male novelty. A husband who abandons his family for a younger woman is condemned. A father who chases pleasure over responsibility is shamed. A man who refuses commitment is called immature. Where is the equivalent restraint on female hypergamy? Modern culture tells women to "know your worth," "never settle," and constantly reevaluate whether they can do better. Men are told to govern novelty. Women are told to optimize hypergamy. Then we wonder why pair bonds are collapsing.
The deepest asymmetry in modern relationships isn't power. It's accountability. A man is expected to suppress the urge for sexual novelty for the sake of the covenant. Fair enough. But what instinct is the woman expected to suppress? If the answer is "none," then monogamy becomes a one-sided sacrifice. A covenant survives only when both partners govern the instincts that threaten it. For men, that's often novelty.
For women, it's often the perpetual search for more ... more status, more resources, more validation, more excitement, a better option. A civilization that regulates novelty but celebrates hypergamy is teaching women to keep one foot out the door in whatever serial monogamist relationship she currently is in. What is the fix?
@forceman1234@TemiXo_1 True of my ex-wife ... helped her get out of debt and build equity in a house ... she still slept with her boss at a Christian ministry to get a raise. Most men know that the original post is feminist propaganda.
Many relationships and marriages fail because people never clearly stated their deepest priorities. They entered a covenant without first defining what the covenant was for. Attraction, need, or convience created the relationship, but ambiguity governes it. When it collapses women often resort to the trope of "we just were not right for each other."
@the_ceo99 Being good requires a system where you are not penalized for being good. Men got tired of bad women not being held accountable and no longer feel comfortable rolling the dice when almost all Western women have adopted a self-serving worldview.
@the_ceo99 Being good requires a system where you are not penalized for being good. Men got tired of bad women not being held accountable and no longer feel comfortable rolling the dice when almost all Western women have adopted a self-serving worldview.
@ReviewsPossum Women spent 20 years teaching men that "no means no." Many men finally listened. Now everyone's shocked when "leave me alone" gets interpreted as "leave me alone."
@pallnandi The problem isn't standards. Every human being has standards. The problem is that modern culture often treats female preferences as empowerment and male preferences as pathology. Fairness requires either scrutinizing both or respecting both.