D. Advocate

bolognese

beef
veal
pork
pancetta
celery
carrot
onion
San marzano tomatoes
white wine
chicken stock
cream
parmesean

rigatoni pasta

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@DokicNathanial @CovfefeAnon This is only true for sex as masturbation

There is a higher level where you both essentially lose consciousness and live entirely in the moment like animals

Afterwards both of you can only remember fragments. It is the closest thing you can get to being one soul in two bodies

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@fartagaz

[Bennett's Phylactery @extradeadjcb]

Now I will tell you how to feel about The Odyssey

Overall: 6.75

Nolan can't decide whether he wants operatic or realistic dialogue - sometimes it works, sometimes you get the worst of both

Most actors simply miscast, & not necessarily for Woke reasons: Matt Damon could maybe have played a plucky, quippy Odysseus, but Nolan isn't interested in that

You could imagine Jon Bernthal working as Chud Menelaus, but again the movie can't decide how modern it wants to be

Likewise Tom Holland & Zendaya - all of these actors' natural inclination is to fight against this Shakespearean stage-play thing that Nolan is clearly trying to do

Female characters at every level of society are portrayed as prisoners & slaves, boiling with spite for their captors & resenting their unrewarded talent

(At one point Anne Hathaway literally seethes about not being allowed to rule in spite of her Impeccable Resume, which elicited laughs in the theater)

Ironically Penelope & Helen are much more complex & richly characterized "real people" in Homer - in the movie they are basically just an extended modern tantrum about the status of women in Ancient Greece

Sinon & Athena essentially fill the role of the Furies - shades of Odysseus' victims, endlessly accusing & tormenting him for his sins

Overall, I think the Greeks would view this movie as almost a Hellraiser-type film about the agonies & transports of awakening to Christian guilt/self-consciousness

It sits in the space between conviction of sin & the hope of redemption (or rather the post-Christian space where they still believe in sin but no longer believe in redemption)

It is superficially anti-war, but really it's just anti-human in a Calvinist sense - mortals are vessels for wrath, & fated to their sins, for which they receive their fated (& just) punishment

(This part is actually not so alien to the pagan worldview - the film just disagrees with the pagans about which sins deserve this kind of treatment)

Nolan interprets the Trojan Horse as a kind of Adamic/karmic sin that poisons the whole world by breaking the reciprocity of Zeus' hospitality (which it summarizes insipidly as "the Golden Rule")

The film afflicts Odysseus with this neuroticism - that he has poetically, metaphorically, spiritually destroyed civilization with his sin (though it's not obvious at any point in the narrative what he is supposed to have done differently) - he simply *is* bad, he harms & destroys by existing as an imperfect mortal

Everything is a trap laid by the gods to expose the inadequacy of mortals & justify their destruction - you almost get the feeling that Nolan set out to make a movie about Oedipus, but the money people told him it wouldn't sell

This is made explicit by Circe's transformation of Odysseus' men into pigs - not a punishment for anything they did, but a rectification of names, a revelation of what they *are*

Similarly the butchering of Helios' cattle - they should not have done it, but they were mortals, & they were hungry, & there was nothing else to eat

The episode with the Sirens is interpreted as Odysseus' hunger to hear the awful truth about himself, & the impossibility of his desires (one of the most powerful scenes in the movie)

The Cyclops is a kind of Lovecraftian confrontation with pitiless reality - it is not only physically overwhelming & impossible to negotiate with, but in league with the sea & the wind - so that their courage & resourcefulness in defeating it leads them into disaster anyway

The "sea people" are an unseen villain that turns out to be a set up for a hacky "we are the real monsters" reveal at the end

All of this is informed by a particular strain of Christianity/post-Christianity which I find repulsive (glory is inherently wicked, all action contains the seeds of self-destruction) - but it's an interesting take on the material, & very compellingly rendered

The movie certainly isn't "pro-immigrant" - the movie can be annoyingly moralistic, but the crime with which is overwhelmingly concerned, the crime that unravels the trust & goodwill upon which the civilization depends, is *guests'* abuse & betrayal of *hosts*

Odysseus is a rationalist (in relative terms) whose central arc is to humble himself, & repent of his impiety, & submit to the will of the gods

If anything, it feels like Nolan made this movie as a spiritual liberal waking up from the hangover of the 20th century, with a sense that their chickens are coming home to roost - though of course he may have a different opinion about which sacred things they should not have trampled

(It is funny, though, that the aging libtard's "penance" is to load up the RV with his wife & abandon all his responsibilities - classic)

Nolan's definitely not trying to faithfully retell the story of Odysseus, but I don't think he's trying to deconstruct it either

He's inhabiting all these scenes psychologically, & interpreting them almost the way you would interpret a dream - which is why the stylized "look & feel" that people made fun of from the trailers actually works fine in the movie

So of course modern moralizing & neuroticism come through - but they're rendered so effectively that you realize that the psychological distance between you & libtard Matt Damon Odysseus is trivial compared to the difference between either of you & the real Odysseus

Would be fun to see Robert Eggers take a whack at a faithful portrayal of Odysseus or Achilles, but as in Northman he'd be up against the constraints of the audience (including you & including himself) - trying to tell a compelling story about a man-shaped alien, a psychological black box

Nolan decided to write a character & a story that he could understand, so he inevitably ends up painting a self-portrait - but he has enough interesting & relatable things to say that it was worth the watch

[🅱️ill Puffin @Bill_Puffin]

@cimmerian_v You forgot to attach the Gigachad image.

[M e o w l m a x x e r @meowlrespecter]

"'Pro life' until it’s an immigrant
'Pro life' until it’s a woman
'Pro life' until it’s a homosexual
'Pro life' until it’s a trans person
'Pro life' until it’s a homeless person"

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@extradeadjcb If my mother were Rebecca Ferguson I would undo 10,000 years of eugenic breeding in a single night if you know what im sayin

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@Particu26569451 @HariSel57511397 The fact that Hitler is remembered 10,000 years into the future and Obama is not presents a real problem for libs who claim to like this movie

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@RokoMijic @CovfefeAnon Dont say that around any of your reddit scientist friends

Pluto and Titan are thought to have lakes/oceans of the stuff

[Covfefe Anon @CovfefeAnon]

@RokoMijic @D3vlsAdvocate Nitrogen is everywhere too

0°R (for Roko) is the freezing point of nitrogen
100°R is the boiling point of nitrogen

(that's -210°C and -196°C btw)

"It's very simple 0°R is very cold while 240°R is quite hot"

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@RokoMijic @CovfefeAnon Yes but the temperature of water in a given environment is less relevant to an individual than the temperature of air in contact with their own person. Fahrenheit is well suited for this measurement

Telling me that water in the air is 70° away from boiling is rather clunky

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@CarlDefinitely @CovfefeAnon But Celsius does not provide a *better* measurement for that purpose than Fahrenheit unless you regularly encounter boiling rain or superheated steam

[Neon Bag @PunishedBag]

@0x49fa98 "Would you like fries with that?"

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@CovfefeAnon "The Spy Who Raped Me"

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@0x49fa98 Imagine what it will be like when the zogged out AI mindcontrol makes you start jerking off after day 3 of nofap while intramuscular electro stimulation holds your eyelids open to watch interracial porn broadcast straight to your phone as captcha verification for your banking app

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@FistedFoucault Hitler invented racism?

[D. Advocate @D3vlsAdvocate]

@CynicalPublius She will have to be deported as well. Even if she gives birth while present illegally the child is as American as apple pie

So sayeth the Honorable Justice Roberts

[Scott Greer 6’2” IQ 187 @ScottMGreer]

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