It was not meant to be.
Thank you for everything to this team.
2x Copa Americas.
1x Finalissima.
2x World Cup finals.
1x World Cup.
An era we will never forget.
Holding myself from talking about how disrespected Argentina has been this whole tournament.
Since the start of the 2022 World Cup, they’ve played 46 games and lost just four. They’ve beaten France, Brazil, Netherlands, Croatia, Italy and England along the way. They’ve won the World Cup, Copa America, Finalissima too.
That is an all-time great side.
Yet we’re supposed to believe they need FIFA’s help to win because referees made some errors - errors that - by the way - sometimes disadvantaged them and favoured other teams in the same tournament.
A team that has THE Messi and lads who are ready to die for him and the badge btw.
All this agenda just to keep a long-dead GOAT debate alive.
Lmao. Okay. Make worldcup first end. 😆
This is the weakest argument I’ve ever seen in the Messi v Ronaldo debate.
One of the weakest arguments in the Messi vs Ronaldo debate is the attempt to separate “the best” from “the greatest.”
It sounds profound, but it quietly changes the question.
We’re trying to identify the greatest footballer, not the greatest biography.
The moment you say, “Messi is the best footballer, but Ronaldo is the greatest because of his mentality, discipline, influence, and life story,” you’ve stopped evaluating football and started evaluating the person.
Discipline, mentality, longevity, adaptability, and work ethic only matter because they produced footballing excellence. They’re not separate trophies to be counted alongside football they’re part of what made someone a great footballer in the first place.
If “greatness” can be decided by inspiration or personal influence, then the debate is no longer about football. It’s about who has the more compelling narrative. Donald Trump can be called the GOAT of football by these metrics.
The GOAT debate has always been about who was the greatest to ever play the game. How you weigh ability, production, trophies, longevity, and consistency is where people disagree.
But redefining “greatest” to mean “the better role model” doesn’t solve the debate.
He begins by claiming Messi is the better footballer, then quietly changes the meaning of “greatest” so Ronaldo can occupy a different category. Nice one there but we aint falling for that.
The question has never been, “Who lived the more admirable life?”
It has never been, “Who had the stronger mentality?”
It has never been, “Who inspired more people?”
The question is simple: Who is the greatest footballer?
The moment you elevate them above football itself, you’ve changed the subject.
Who is the greatest physicist?
Einstein because he changed physics?
Or another scientist because he inspired more people?
In almost every field, greatness refers primarily to excellence within that field.
Football shouldn’t suddenly become different.
@I223378@dopeboy_hyphen@Hectorolym23350@Parrison94@15gustavoaguero lol. The dude is trying to convolute the real discussion. No need to bring in Lampard, Ozil, Iniesta or anyone else in a Messi v. Ronaldo playmaking discussion. Doesn’t do anything else besides waste time. Everyone knows Ozil is elite. Told you he’s just projecting insecurities.
@I223378@dopeboy_hyphen@Hectorolym23350@Parrison94@15gustavoaguero Not even sure of what he’s trying to say with this. Phew. One year of Messi puts all of the greats to bed. Not even in an insulting way. The most respected, most intelligent, most complete player of all time.
@dopeboy_hyphen@I223378@Hectorolym23350@Parrison94@15gustavoaguero Looll. So what you really mean is you watched 240p YouTube and TikTok comps or Ronaldo’s 06 WC. You should have said that, instead of leading us to believe you watched the actual tournament and other players.
Thanks for clarifying. No need to engage you further. Cheers.
@dopeboy_hyphen@I223378@Hectorolym23350@Parrison94@15gustavoaguero Stop projecting your insecurities on me son. Love Naija, not been there in years. You haven’t answered any questions despite all the free resources at your disposal.
You can’t spew unverified claims bc you watched some clips on X and run when asked to back it up. Based on what?
@dopeboy_hyphen@I223378@Hectorolym23350@Parrison94@15gustavoaguero And by what metric are you qualifying his playmaking ability in that WC? Bc I don’t understand what THE Riquelme, Zidane and even Figo were doing in that World Cup by your standards that “Ronaldo was that damn good playmaker that wrote his name in the stars.” On playmaking? Haba!
@dopeboy_hyphen@I223378@Hectorolym23350@Parrison94@15gustavoaguero I don’t know you, you don’t know me, don’t project your insecurities on me. You don’t know my opinion on Pirlo, Iniesta or Figo — all incredible footballers and playmakers.
I ask again. How was Ronaldo a good playmaker in the 06 WC? You can go and fire up your free ChatGPT now.