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[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

What starts as a simple complaint about Fake_Phishing dust quickly becomes a much bigger story. https://t.co/49klDwkNAQ

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

@nickisanders The story is managed lending apps and consortium databases in the crypto world. DeFi does the marketing in that space.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

@CryptoJoe101 @VodafoneIreland The want you to buy Starlink 😁

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

@zachcakes RH will print those caps. New chain, app distribution.

Just don’t call that decentralisation. If a thin token on RH gets used as collateral and drained, they have the tools to freeze the exit. Base didn’t use them on Moonwell. Different product.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

@WuBlockchain Wow, they froze the whole ledger to mop it up. That’s ops. Not a protocol.

The story is one of a managed lending app on a pausable consortium database with cryptographic receipts.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

DeFi wasn’t hacked. A managed lending app, hardly a protocol on a pausable Crypto.com-linked chain got oracle-gamed. Then the operators stopped the chain.

That’s an admin stack failing, not code is law. Call the chain what it is: a consortium database with cryptographic receipts.

The people who run it paused it. First they let a thin token print fake collateral. Then they froze the whole ledger to mop it up. That’s ops. Not a protocol.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

@Jeremybtc It isn’t a lending protocol in the sense people hear. It’s a managed on-chain money market. Protocols don’t list junk collateral, then turn the chain off when the listing blows up.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

pool vol ≠ venue vol
need the contracts used in that snapshot

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

Interesting data, thanks for sharing.

Quick methodology question: is the volume tied to specific contracts/routers of the redacted venue, or is it aggregated pool-level volume for those tokenized stocks?

The note that “Robinhood’s own chain leads” on NVDA suggests the numbers may be summed at the chain / ecosystem level. If the same approach was used for the redacted venue, how is volume that hit those pools via other routers (Uniswap, aggregators, etc.) being filtered out?

If you’re able to share the specific pool addresses, router contracts, or query filters used, that would make the venue attribution independently verifiable.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

Interesting data, thanks for sharing.

Quick methodology question: is the volume tied to specific contracts/routers of the redacted venue, or is it aggregated pool-level volume for those tokenized stocks?

The note that “Robinhood’s own chain leads” on NVDA suggests the numbers may be summed at the chain / ecosystem level. If the same approach was used for the redacted venue, how is volume that hit those pools via other routers (Uniswap, aggregators, etc.) being filtered out?

If you’re able to share the specific pool addresses, router contracts, or query filters used, that would make the venue attribution independently verifiable.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

@satofishi @etherscan Is the Etherscan spam shock also a quiet comment on current Ethereum priorities (e.g. the issuance/yield proposals), or just pure explorer frustration?

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

Strong numbers, 106k UNI on a normal day is impressive, the fee switch is already delivering real value accrual.

As the system scales, it could be worth exploring a more adaptive V4FeePolicy (e.g. dialing protocol take down during high-vol / high-IL regimes). That might help keep LP incentives aligned long-term while still supporting strong burns.

I’ve raised this in a few replies already, is anything like that already being discussed, or would it require a formal governance proposal?

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

Fair on the arithmetic. The v4 additive structure is clear. Even so, the practical question remains whether higher total fees compress volume enough to reduce absolute LP earnings, especially once divergence loss kicks in during volatile periods.

Has anyone looked at making the V4FeePolicy more adaptive (e.g. lower or zero protocol take when realized vol / IL is elevated)? Is that already on the radar, or would it need a formal governance proposal?

Where you see that going.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

@masatoalexander To the uneducated it’s always easier to just agree with the cult leader than to look at the numbers and stay objective.Blind faith is simpler than cash-flow reality.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

Covered the Predyx BIP-110 market and the broader governance dynamics back in February when the odds were sitting at similar levels.

Still tracking the same story: signaling near zero, Foundry vote defaults to No, and primary-chain activation by early September remains a low-probability outcome. Governance theater continues.

[PREDYX @predyx_markets]

🚨 BIP-110 activation odds on PREDYX just hit a one-month low.

Now: 8.37%

https://t.co/krDAbDR7Xp

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

When did it become fine to endlessly drag Ethereum if it pushes the narrative… but suddenly “corporate and boring” the moment people question the founder’s own track record and funding model?

This isn’t crypto going corporate.
It’s crypto finally calling out the hypocrisy of founders who dish it out but can’t take it.

Human frustration is one thing. Selective accountability is another.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

QMakes sense on the CEX comparison for the absolute size.

On the broader design: even with additive fees on v4, higher total costs can still pressure volume and absolute LP earnings once divergence loss is factored in.

Have you (or governance) considered evolving the V4FeePolicy toward something adaptive, e.g. lower/zero protocol take in high-vol or high-IL regimes?

Is anything like that already in the pipeline, or would it need a formal proposal?

Curious if that’s on the radar.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

Appreciate the clarification on v4. Aqdditive rather than subtractive is an important distinction from v3.

Even so, the economic effect can still land on LPs. Higher total fees widen the spread, which can reduce volume and absolute fee income, especially once you factor in divergence loss during volatile periods. The protocol fee itself may not cut the LP rate, but the overall pie can shrink.

Would be interesting to see the V4FeePolicy evolve toward something more adaptive (e.g. lower protocol take when realized vol / IL is elevated). That feels like a natural next step given how flexible the system was designed to be.

[Hayden Adams 🦄 @haydenzadams]

Tons of FUD and misunderstanding around the v4 fee switch:

"LP fees are getting reduced" - False. Protocol fees are additive, not subtractive. LPs earning 30bp per swap still earn 30bp

"The protocol is taking 25% of LP profits" - Made-up math. On a 30bp pool the protocol fee is 5bp. That's 5/35 = ~14% of total swap fees and 0% of what LPs were already earning

"The cut is too high" - CEXs charge 100–200bp per swap. 5bp on a 30bp tier is 20–40x cheaper, for the deepest distribution in DeFi

And to the fork that talks about Uniswap more than its own product, takes 100% of swap fees, and "compensates" LPs with uneven token inflation set by token votes: lol

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

Agreed, 10-25% cut on v4 makes “business as usual” LPing tougher, especially once you stack it on top of IL

Isn't V4 FeePolicy deliberately designed to be replaceable?

Governance could later swap in smarter logic (e.g. lower/zero protocol take during high-vol / high-IL regimes, higher take when markets are calm).

That would keep the UNI burn running while making the economics more sustainable for LPs. Would be a meaningful upgrade over the current market-condition-blind switch.

[DeFiHubSpace 🏁🌱🪐 @defihubspace]

Fair point on the LP haircut + IL double whammy. The current fee switch is completely blind to market conditions — it takes the same cut whether LPs are getting wrecked by divergence loss or sitting in calm markets.Would be much better with a smart/adaptive version: lower (or zero) protocol take during high-vol/high-IL periods, higher take when markets are quiet and LPs have more buffer. v4’s fee policy system already has the flexibility for this. Better long-term alignment for LPs, the protocol, and UNI holders.

[alexander @wagmiAlexander]

Happy UNI Fee Switch Day

If you locked liquidity in UniV2 or V3, you've just had your share of fees cut by up to 25% -- condolences.

If you're in vanilla V4, your flows are now taxed by up to 33%. In the rest, they can come for your fees anytime.

Or, you can just use Aero. 🛫