@AmbearRoars4U @LewisHussey1 @DaltonHooks @CopingMAGA It depends.. if this can be a teachable moment, then you can start to deprogram... and also start addressing some of those other issues. The alternative is worse than not trying, as you deny their worth and ultimately dehumanise them which strikes me as just a little hypocritical
@jessieedlen@CopingMAGA I agree... actually working with them, and explaining reality.. and context to them as they may be in a more reachable place.. and maybe, just maybe we can help some out!
@EUkhri@TayCrispy Lol, never realised until now.. he blocked me. I guess his byline is also ironic - 'I like to find the truth in everything I hear. I don't back down.'
@EUkhri@TayCrispy Interesting that your response to this is to assume that the black guy is on food stamps or can certainly be devalued him through your stereotype...
You do realise that's the whole point of why he needs to say Black Lives Matter? I hope you see the irony.
@Whaynos @csl503@samriegel@jimmy_dore I agree and disagree
I disagree on a principle level... how the fuck could Americans still vote for Trump?? It blows my mind - and my belief is the margins should have been higher.
I agree in reality though... if Georgia had not turned, next 4 years would have been worse.
@Whaynos @csl503@samriegel@jimmy_dore After the election, the moderate democrats were furious at the progressives for giving the 'socialist' talking point to the republicans, and believe that this is what caused a less then spectacular showing.
@Whaynos @csl503@samriegel@jimmy_dore Both corporate donors, and also the belief that if they go too far left, they will be disowned by the moderate majority of America (re: Republican's they wanted to flip - however true that may be - AOC is convinced that that is a losing strategy and told them so)
@KWStoryTime @samriegel Well he already pardoned those involved in the Russia investigation - the ones that fiddled with the election. How can it be right that you can pardon those that do your work?
'Go do this illegal thing for me - i got ya back'
@Whaynos @csl503@samriegel@jimmy_dore Agreed - and you highlight important issues - like about corruption from SUPER PACS and other forms of influence such as McConnell arranging to have Russia build a iron mill factory in his state, the power of the moderate democrats to maintain status quo sucking up to republican
@Whaynos @csl503@samriegel@jimmy_dore and how you implied that made left and right equivalent.
I was saying it isn't equivalent. Everything else you just put in your post are meat for a separate and worthy discussion.
@Whaynos @csl503@samriegel@jimmy_dore I was referring to your statement about forcing the vote, and how in that situation they were powerless (except as you stated to put a record down)... but with the deadline being day after xmas for many, that would have been a gamble.
@Whaynos @csl503@samriegel@jimmy_dore I can see your point... but I was not pointing out what the right course of action was, or even the consequence, i was disagreeing with you equivocating the two sides which can better be defined as treading carefully and powerlessness given the need for haste vs the bold corrupt.
@Whaynos @csl503@samriegel Did you ever consider that this may because the Senate was republican majority?
So many bills have gone their to die.
I agree though that they could have championed their cause, but to say that it is the same as just blowing smoke up ppl's asses is wrong.
@Anfini00 @buttdartz @JafOby@wenshijiu@realDonaldTrump Or because he is the leader of the most powerful country and what he says and does affects (well, maybe not so much now that most leaders don't take him too seriously) the world???
And it ain't just an interpretation when his actions are so frequent, and from him directly.