@VickersBiostats@uroegg@dr_coops@JGrummet Pt selection for surg not my area so coming back to pathology........ being from a busy uropathology practice (clinical and review), the hardest/least reproducible place to draw a line b/w Ca and B9 is at the interface of 3+3 and low volume pattern 4 #becarefulwhatyouwishfor
@VickersBiostats@uroegg@dr_coops@JGrummet ......and changing name of 3+3 to non-malignant will then makes it more difficult to act on these other non-Gleason features.
"You don't have cancer, but your non-cancer is worryingly large on MRI so we think it should come out" is equally troublesome
@VickersBiostats@uroegg@dr_coops@JGrummet I'm fortunate to work with pro-surveillance surgeons/clinicians and funded MRI, but in our lab in 2022, it's rare to see RadProst from GG1-only coreBxs....and when we do, it's usually because of other concerning features (large volume on imaging or core, imaging mismatch)
@VickersBiostats@uroegg@dr_coops I can't help but feel this is trying to solve the wrong problem.
The 'right problem' here is over-investigation and over-treatment
Over-Ix = Improved patient selection/MRI/molecular.
Over-Rx = ...cue Urologists/RadOncs
#uropathology#ProstateCancer
@JGrummet@uroegg@drphil_urology I also enjoy this "philosophical debate", but there really isn't much to debate scientifically here.
You would have more chance if you went after the 'non-invasive papillary urothelial carcinoma' first
(1/2) Dear ISUP members, thank you for participating in our recent surve about Gleason score 3+3=6 prostate cancer.
“Of 314 respondents, 278 (89%) endorsed retaining the cancer label for GS6, versus 7% who favored renaming.
@Gleason4plus5 This looks like a report written for a database rather than a urologist. A great reminder that a report is about both the message AND the delivery.
@Gleason4plus5 Then #gupath could be the only subspeciality where invasive cancers are not called cancer (LG CaP) and non-invasive neoplasms are called cancer (papillary urothelial carcinoma)
@Gleason4plus5@daninava@daviesbj You're being super tolerant @Gleason4plus5. I am resisting entering but support you entirely.
I think the appropriate saying goes something like "let the cobbler stick to his last" https://t.co/ZuTzzXB4mf
Celebrated a milestone today with our trusted colleagues and valued collaborators @TissuPath following our 500th fresh tissue for our PDX program. Thank you for your generosity Andrew, Sam, David and all the team. #ProstateCancer#uropathology@MonashBDI