Understanding Market Socialism 101...
My experience is that anti-socialists are stuck in the 1970s: arguing against rationing bread & nationalisation. None of this is proposed, but the caricature is far easier than engaging with contemporary debates over ownership.
@reformparty_uk's patriotism is all bunting and no belonging: a Union Jack suit shouting "take back Britain" while the landowning class keeps the gates locked.
They wrap themselves in the flag, then tell you 92% of the country beneath it is none of your business. Mugs.
@OrealistMarcus@TurnSeattleRed@MayraFlores4TX You're offering misinformation by deliberating restricting comment to a static redistribution. That's not where the economic gain comes from: it's through a dynamic reduction in rent-seeking power: from reducing corruption of markets to government policy itself.
@gprabaka@omgsidewalks Ramble as economic rent is the norm. This is necessarily inefficient profit through underpayment.
And that's accepted by economic orthodoxy...
@4PrivateCitizen@ChristineKayNow More tiresome guff. No credible economist would state free markets are possible. You'd have to ignore all of modern economics.
@4PrivateCitizen@ChristineKayNow More misinformation. First, we know that it's social democratic countries which max self-employment rates. Second, 'govt=socialism' is a basic error. See state capitalism Vs market socialism.
You're boring me.
@4PrivateCitizen@ChristineKayNow There's no opposite to free markets (except in textbooks). Free markets aren't possible and pursuing them is just cretinous.
Not sure why you insist on pursuing nonsensical argument.
@4PrivateCitizen@ChristineKayNow Repetition of drivel. For a start you're not referring to economic freedom. Note that neoliberal countries have low self-employment rates. There's no freedom, guaranteeing wage underpayment.
@4PrivateCitizen@ChristineKayNow Of course market fundamentalism is nonsense. And of course they know it leads to cronyism. Market fundamentalist organisations, after all, are funded by big business.