@michigeese Hey now, give them a chance. Sometimes they like to pretend to do something good before doing something horrifically evil. Be patient. Its hard work destroying the country
@ReichlinMelnick What is the plan if they actually do it, something similar, or use the feds to do something like violently suppress 26/28? The courts failed, congress has failed, the people of the US have failed, are we really gonna close our eyes and not prepare for the inevitable?
@kyledcheney@maggieNYT@jonathanvswan Try and convict of treason, either life sentence or death. Ban the GOP of operating and/or recieving any funds public or private, and expropriate their physical infrastructure (eminent domain), deregister/ban all peoples from voting who were registered Rs in 2024 for 10 years
@atrupar Either shes extremely stupid (likely) or this is an elaborate subtle hint that the Senate is going to ignore the advice of the Parlimentarian and by "including election fraud" they mean theyre going to fraudulently pass a measure that would normally be 60 votes by simple majority
@ConspiracyBull1 I mean not that Trump hasn't blatantly violated the constitution in this area already, but under normal circumstances theres no way that money is getting past a filibuster. Maybe Rs do another recon bill but I'm not sure a provision like that would survive the Byrd rule
@KDbyProxy Lets say the dems get 57 votes on the appeal, which still fails, could the Dem leader not appeal it needing 60 votes? Maybe that makes more sense or im probably misunderstanding something again
@KDbyProxy Im sorry, it just clicked. The chair would make an egregious ruling, it would take 60 votes to overturn that ruling, meaning the egregious ruling is sustained if it doesn't get 60 votes to overturn, and Rs *want* the egregious ruling obviously so theyre not going to challenge
@KDbyProxy To overturn that would require 60 votes. That vote would likely fail. Could Thune then not make a point of order that the Byrd rule requires only a simple majority to overcome a PoO, which the chair would rule against, then Thune could appeal *that* ruling, overturning it by 51?
@KDbyProxy Ok I think youre saying the R Chair could simply not follow the advice of the Parlimentarian and rule the SAVE act only requires 51 votes to be in the recon bill. I do think that ultimately ends up in a similar appeal vote that has the same effect as what I said
@KDbyProxy R offers SAVE act as amendment to recon bill
D makes point of order its not compliant with Byrd
Chair sustains ruling
R appeal (60 votes)
Vote fails
R makes point of order that overruling Byrd requires only simple majority
Chair overrules
R appeal
R defeat Chair with 51 votes
@KDbyProxy Not to give them advice, but could they not just use the nuclear option on the provision requiring 60 votes to overcome a reconciliation point of order?
@KDbyProxy I thought overturning the chair only requires a simple majority? I know appealing the chair requires 60 votes if the ruling is on a Byrd rule point of order, but I thought the 60 vote threshold was limited to that, no?
@KDbyProxy@ChadPergram I doubt they have the votes to defeat an appeal (or even the votes to do another reconciliation bill) but one should also never underestimate the shamelessness of Republicans