@Friended4Ever@RadEmpenada I know Biden prosecuted more fraud than Trump's first term and that Trump has given clemency to countles more fraudsters in exchange for investments and campaign contributions. Seems relevant.
This is actually correct. Force the hard, unpopular work to get done under Trump and then address Democratic Party priorities in the next Administration.
If Democrats take Congress they should focus on deficit reduction.If they could get it done under Trump it would set up their next trifecta to be a lot more fun.
If Democrats take Congress they should focus on deficit reduction.If they could get it done under Trump it would set up their next trifecta to be a lot more fun.
@SquatchSeabeck@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton If you can understand that perspective, maybe you can start to understand why some people feel like the United States isn't the country they thought it was.
@SquatchSeabeck@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton DJT has been more divisive than any President in modern history. He claims all Democrats hate our country, are evil, he lies incessantly while denigrating the principles liberals love about our country. He did this b4 2016, and does not try to be a President for all Americans.
@Bradybits@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton I just want one person to engage honestly with my actual point, something you seem incapable of. Explaining further when people can't seem to do that isn't being didactic. It makes sense you thought I'm boring since you thought two quotes and 3.5 sentences was a gish gallop lol.
@Bradybits@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton Its not pedantic, they are different. Its not even my view, but I know ALOT of people who love this country but do not feel pride rn due to the behavior of DJT and MAGA. Its a very simple concept to love but not feel pride in behavior. Its obv been my entire point this whole time
@Bradybits@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton Then you said, "Notice there’s no equivalent drop in GOP numbers with Leftist presidents." as an indication of some partisan difference. I said this had more to do with perceptions about what MAGA implies about our country than some common partisan asymmetry or DJT hate.
@Bradybits@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton You claimed "So you’re saying it’s the massive dips coincide with a DJT presidency so it’s reasonable to hate the COUNTRY when you hate the president?"I never said this, and I stated, ad nauseam, that lack of pride isn't hate. This thread has all been me asking for proof of hate.
@SquatchSeabeck@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton I never stated I had a poll, I was the one who asked for evidence! No one has provided any, only confused the words pride with love and dishonestly framed my argument.
@Bradybits@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton Lack of pride does not equal hate, why is this simple concept not sink in? I'd point out there was no such dip under Bush for liberals either and suggest it says more about perceptions of that movements place in our history more than anything else.
@cromag80@SpcSpcjr@charlescwcooke@samnulton You read it, didn't understand it, and made that clear to the world. You are wrong AND can't read. Or you are just dishonest. Anyway you cut it, I am corrrect.
@cromag80@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton It's not nonsense, I would answer that I have pride in my country. Other people, who love what America stands for, have had their conception of that history altered by the behavior of MAGA. Your bad faith interpretation bodes ill for this nation.
@SquatchSeabeck@rkylesmith@charlescwcooke@samnulton I specifically mentioned that pride does not encapsulate the question, and then everyone posted polling about pride. You don't need a mind reader, you need to actually read.