Everardus

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[Everardus @EverardusAdamo]

@HabemusMalleum @KalebAtlanta It was a letter, and as I recall it was noted as incomplete in the book (Letters from Father Seraphim). The "Life and Works" book has the complete letter, however, so they must have found the rest of it.

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@KalebAtlanta ❌ St. Porphyrios of Kafsokalyvia
✅ St. Purple of Burning-Hut

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@KalebAtlanta ❌ St. Sophrony of Essex
✅ St. Prudence of Essex

❌ Metropolitan Kallistos Ware
✅ Metropolitan Most-Beautiful Ware

[Everardus @EverardusAdamo]

@IHaveAyytism @KalebAtlanta I just like these as a kind of language game, I don't actually want to change them. I think the favorite one I came up with was "St. Dennis of Mars-Hill" for St. Dionysius the Areopagite.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf To clarify, they're a waste of time for me. I'll be like "wow, I really didn't know this word as well as I thought. I should go back and learn *all* the words I think I know." And then I stop learning Greek, and start learning flashcard making. Ditto for exercises.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf I mean, the most important thing is to pick something and stick with it. I have the problem of switching between textbooks a lot, and it really doesn't help. I also refuse to make flashcards or do exercises anymore, because I find they are mostly a waste of time.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf There's also the Ancient Language Institute, where you can take online classes. I've never done that (because of the cost), but I think the teachers use their own materials.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf It isn't great, but the Athenaze books are the best thing I've found. There's also the "Reading Greek" books, but the difficulty curve is crazy.

Both of them will involve a lot of rereading.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf (Also the self-importance comment wasn't directed at you, just the method. I was going to say it is a method that appeals to the Victorian sense of self-importance, but I ran out of space to explain the historical link, so I just went with "my sense of self-importance" instead)

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf I'm not arguing either, just talking.

I will say that the grammar-translation method for Latin and Greek helped me immensely with my English. I didn't learn Latin, but I did learn my own native language a lot better.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf Ancient or modern? I'm already stuck halfway through learning ancient Greek, but part of me wishes I had just learned modern to start with.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf You have to start with the silly family. It doesn't have to be this book, or any book, but regardless you have to start with things that are lesser to reach the things that are higher. This is how every language, and indeed every academic discipline works.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf How do you get to Virgil and Cato? Do you just internalize everything until you can come out with perfect Ciceronian Latin? As much as this would appeal to my sense of self-importance, unfortunately it just doesn't work.

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf *uninterrupted

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf The problem is I don't think you can learn a language without learning how to speak it, or at least how to understand it in unterrupted discourse (whether spoken or written). Learning a tongue without any use of the tongue seems a violation of nature.

[Everardus @EverardusAdamo]

@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf That example is from like the 3rd chapter. Anything from chapter 3 of any textbook is going to be not amazing. It takes humility to learn a language, and part of that humility is subjecting yourself to things that are "beneath you."

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@GabrielCharczuk @BrotherAugusti2 @Soulful76_Leaf I don't think we're talking about the same book. I've read the book cover to cover several times, including the supplements. That doesn't happen.