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@TIFFANXx0 @upliftvegans You're just spinning your wheels now.

Who defines what "abuse" is, you or God?

If you say, "God", then you have to accept that God ordered mass slaughter of animals, gave animals to Israelites to be owned as property, etc.

If you say, "me", then you're a devil.

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@TIFFANXx0 @baselessassert That verse you quoted shows that God doesn't consider a human who owns animals (as property) to be unrighteous. Is that Vegan?..🤔

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@shanks94033 @MagaQVegan @baselessassert God's original intention was that all creatures would exist in peace (no flesh-eating).

God gave angels and humans free will.

Angels and humans chose to rebel against God.

This rebellion cause creation to be corrupted and cursed.

Pain was not the intention, hence sentience.

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@MagaQVegan @shanks94033 @baselessassert Jesus ordered His disciples to kill and eat animals.
Based on your comment, that means that Jesus had His disciples participate in demonic flesh eating rituals.

This is more proof that Veganism is anti-God.

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@Zeeownsurmom @aulineboards You're being pedantic.

Women can't compete with men when it comes to the application of force.

All of human history has borne this out.
You can cite outliers but, overwhelmingly, men monopolize physical violence.

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@Zeeownsurmom @aulineboards If, somehow, humans went extinct, would human rights exist?

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@Zeeownsurmom @aulineboards So you cite outliers against generalizations and don't understand hypotheticals?..

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@Zeeownsurmom @aulineboards So there were no human rights before the 1960s?

And you're arguing that rights are not just human imaginations?

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@DianaCialino Yeah, giving hormones to mentally deranged humans in order to amplify their derangement is not good but giving hormones to humans who are low in that hormone based on biologic norms is fine.

One makes crazy crazier.
The other makes normal more normal.

Yes, NORMAL...

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@athiestboi "Hurt people who believe differently than you" – Leftists

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@shanks94033 @MagaQVegan @baselessassert Is owning animals as property immoral under the Vegan standard?
→ Yes

Is owning animals as property immoral under God's standard?
→ No

God routinely gave animals to the Israelites for them to own, kill, and eat. He called it a "blessing"

Veganism condemns God as immoral

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@BatchLiberal It's better to teach them both of those things. 👍🏼

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@TheExBeliever Homie, you can't even prove you aren't in a simulation, let alone that atheists exist.

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@Zeeownsurmom @aulineboards If male police officers decided female police officers were no longer a thing, female police officers could offer little resistance against it.

The fact that there are female police officers is the result of men permitting it.

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@Zeeownsurmom @aulineboards You think that the United Nations General Assembly is the source of rights?

Are you actually [ree-tar-did] or are you trolling?

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@TIFFANXx0 @baselessassert I showed that John 21 shows the resurrected Jesus cooking and serving fish to His disciples.

You bring up beastiality, rape, and torturing of animals.

You're speaking like the Devil → twisting words, and misrepresenting in order to deceive.

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@TIFFANXx0 @upliftvegans Define "abuses".
According to God, eating animals for food is not immoral

Genesis 9:2-3 👇🏼
"...every beast...and...every bird...everything that creeps...and all the fish...into your hand they are given. Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you...I give all to you."

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@baselessassert @paleoludic I doubt He would kill baby animals for Himself now that He has a resurrected body that doesn't require food.

But the record is clear, after resurrecting, Jesus helped His disciples catch fish. And He cooked and served fish to His disciples (John 21)

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@baselessassert @paleoludic All this does is expose your concept of Jesus.

The Bible is clear that Jesus is a bringer of peace and forgiveness, as well as judgement and God's wrath

He healed sick people and cast out demons

Yet He destroyed commerce tables in God's temple and drove out animals with a whip

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@Zeeownsurmom @aulineboards Necessities are necessities, not rights.

Rights are fantasies, not necessities.