I didn’t know people were saying you hadn’t replied. I saw your reply. I’m rubbish on X it’s probably something I’ve done wrong 🤦♀️
I know Chester didn’t have a clue that Archie had Entrovirus. They said he had “confirmed” NEC and so when he got to Manchester he had abdominal surgery for the NEC which didn’t help him one bit and added to his problems because by then he wasn’t clotting. When they opened him up his bowel was perfectly healthy but his liver was in failure.
I have looked at the neonatal panel findings that Shoo Lee delivered and they thought one of the babies had entrovirus. They also found
* Babies being cared for beyond the unit’s capability.
* Delays in diagnosis and treatment.
* Inadequate staffing and training.
* Poor supervision of junior doctors.
* Deficiencies in teamwork and communication.
* Infection-control and plumbing problems.
To be honest I don’t know enough about any of the other babies or the Lucy Letby case. My reason for speaking out is that I think Archie died because of all the failings of the list above. I could have written that list to explain Archie’s time at Chester, it all rings so true.
I don’t know why the police even bothered to ask about Archie but I think it was because 3 of us rang up. One is a friend of mine who works for ITV so I think the police took it more seriously and asked the consultants view on Archie. They both said his death was “expected”.
They didn’t “expect” it when Archie left Chester.
He had an operation at Manchester because Chester said “confirmed NEC “ on his discharge notes. They opened him up and found he didn’t have NEC but a failing liver.
Three of us contacted Cheshire Police to ask whether Archie’s death would be included in the investigation into babies who died at the Countess of Chester Hospital.
We were all told the same thing: his case was outside the timeframe being investigated.
I have since read transcripts showing that the question was put to Dr Stephen Brearey and Dr. Ravi Jayaram who said that Archie’s death was “expected.”
As his grandmother, I struggle to understand that description.
Archie wasn’t recognised as seriously ill until day six. Before then, we were repeatedly reassured that he was doing well. He then deteriorated rapidly, was transferred to a Manchester , diagnosed with Echovirus 11 and tragically died on day 13.
That’s why I continue to ask whether the investigation should have looked more broadly at why babies were dying at the Countess of Chester Hospital, rather than limiting itself to a particular timeframe.
Families deserve answers. Every baby’s death deserved the fullest possible investigation.
#CountessOfChester #NeonatalCare #Justice #PublicInquiry
Annie requested a meeting with Ravi Jayaram in 2017 after Archie died. He told her she had passed Echovirus 11 to Archie. My issue with this is that no blood samples were taken after the delivery and the placenta wasn’t kept, even though she did have a temperature when she arrived at the hospital. So how does he know she had it?
Echovirus 11 is primarily spread via the faecal–oral route, meaning through contact with infected faeces or contaminated surfaces, hands, or water.
I’ve searched the medical literature and have struggled to find cases where a baby infected vertically by their mother survived until day 13, as Archie did.
When I heard during Thirlwall that there were reports of raw sewage problems on the Countess of Chester neonatal unit at the time Archie was in there, it made me start to think.
I’d genuinely welcome thoughts from clinicians, virologists, and anyone with expertise in neonatal infection.
#Archie #Echovirus11 #Enterovirus #NeonatalCare #PatientSafety #CountessOfChester #CountessOfChesterHospital #ThirlwallInquiry #Neonatology #Virology #InfectionControl #MaternitySafety #NICU #MedicalResearch #JusticeForFamilies
Was Archie unique, or are we only seeing events with hindsight?
Archie was said to be “fine” for six days, despite his family repeatedly saying something wasn’t right. Then he suddenly became critically ill. Chester diagnosed NEC and he underwent surgery in Manchester, where there was no NEC.
He was later found to have Echovirus-11, a virus that spread through his body and tragically took his life.
It makes me wonder how many neonatal babies show subtle signs before they collapse that simply aren’t recognised at the time. I’m asking whether we need to look more closely at how early warning signs are identified, especially when experienced consultants aren’t immediately present on the ward.
#NeonatalCare #PatientSafety #CountessOfChester #ListenToParents #Echovirus
@Sammyjo1954@DebRoberts22249 Yes. He became really ill on day 6. My problem tbh is that they didn’t notice he was so poorly until he crashed. We saw no consultants and we were all saying he is so sleepy are you sure he is ok, the nurses said he is fine doing well and then all hell broke loose.
@DebRoberts22249 no babies died after June 16 because the unit was downgraded. When Archie collapsed on day 6 at Chester he was transferred to Manchester where he died. You make me angry, you know about Archie we have had this conversation. Stop saying no deaths after Lucy left
@Sammyjo1954@DebRoberts22249 Bu that’s where you are wrong. She was removed from the unit in July 2015. My grandson was born December 2015 and died after 13 days. Collapsed at Chester on day 6 , transferred to Manchester and died. He got ill at Chester and would have died there if the unit hadn’t down graded
@Sammyjo1954@DebRoberts22249 Born 36 weeks. Went into NICU because he was “grunting “ after c section. He was well doing fine until unexpected collapse day 6. He had a virus. Not diagnosed until he got to Manchester.
@DebRoberts22249 It wasn’t expected Chester sent him to Manchester saying he had NEC they operated on him in Manchester and he didn’t have NEC. Misdiagnosed. Discovered echovirus day 10