Finn • Crypto technologist • Privacy maximalist & security-focused • Sick of Cultural Marxism & Orwellianism destroying the West • Not a vatnik or bot.
⚠️Imagine this:⚠️
🇷🇺Russia invades the 🇺🇸United States.
Russian troops occupy Alaska in a surprise attack and move forward. Russian missiles destroy American cities, power stations, and hospitals. Large American cities are out of power during the cold winter months. Russian drones hunt American civilians. Moscow complains that this is because Washington has been behaving provocatively by placing military troops in Alaska, land that historically belongs to Russia, and that the USA fails to understand legitimate Russian security interests.
President Donald Trump appears on television, desperately appealing to Europe for help.
Europe’s response?
“We don't understand all this fuss. Alaska has historically been Russian territory. Donald, just shut up. You don’t have the cards. You’re in a very bad position. You should be grateful we’re even talking to you.”
Then a Russian missile strikes an elementary school in Washington. Dozens of American children are killed.
A European leader is asked whether Moscow should be held responsible?
“Look, it’s terrible. Absolutely terrible. But we must remember that people are dying on both sides. Russian soldiers are being killed by American troops, too. We cannot simply blame Russia because some American children have died. We need to understand the legitimate security concerns of both countries.”
Meanwhile, reports emerge that 50,000 American children have been forcibly taken by Russian occupation forces. Children from Alaska have been transported to Russia, separated from their parents, and placed with Russian families.
Trump demands the children's immediate return.
Europe urges everyone to remain calm:
“Frankly, some of these children have been placed with better Russian families. Very respectable people. Lovely homes. We mustn’t allow emotional arguments about children to derail the peace process. After all, all wars end in peace; we must focus on achieving peace."
Russia continues systematically destroying America’s electricity grid, bridges, and railway networks. American infrastructure is being reduced to rubble. Russia launches hypersonic ballistic missiles at American cities at random, killing and wounding hundreds of civilians.
Trump begs Europe to at least give SAMP/T missiles, so that the USA can protect its cities from Russian terror attacks.
European leaders roll their eyes:
“Honestly, the man is exhausting. Every time we speak to Trump, it’s the same bloody thing. Anti-aircraft missiles, air defence systems, ammunition, weapons, weapons, weapons. Can’t he just shut up for five minutes? We’re trying to negotiate peace here."
America retaliates against continuous Russian attacks by attacking Russian oil and gas infrastructure.
Trump asks Europe to give America Taurus cruise missiles, so that America can hit Russian military and economic targets harder to stop the war, by forcing Russia to come to the negotiating table on reasonable terms.
European leaders are appalled:
“American strikes are escalating the conflict and threatening global energy prices. Russia needs reassurance that its infrastructure will be protected. We need Taurus missiles ourselves and won't be giving or selling them to the USA to escalate the war.”
European leaders also keep pointing out:
"Also, why isn't there a presidential election now in America? We think that the USA should hold presidential elections right now (even if US laws prevent this) to elect a better president so that peace can be achieved, since apparently Trump does not want peace."
Europe calls for restraint. From America, naturally. European envoys then fly to Russia to negotiate lucrative deals involving gas from occupied Alaska and a magnificent new North American security architecture.
“Europe understands that we must address Russia’s legitimate security concerns. Perhaps America could withdraw its troops from certain states and reconsider its military alliances. After all, Russia has genuine concerns about American military forces operating so close to Russian positions.”
Russia occupies most of the territory and its troops' positions are in Texas, Alaska, California, and the state of Washington.
“For a peace to work,” says Europe, “America needs to understand that some territory needs to change hands. Russia already controls Texas, Alaska, California, and the state of Washington, so why not just give them to Russia for peace? Russia should also be given access to the Gulf of America's oil and gas resources naturally. America should make a promise that it will not place military troops in countries or areas next to Russia (this of course includes the states of Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana).”
Trump protests that nobody has asked the Americans what they think.
“Donald, we’re negotiating peace. Please stop being difficult. Russia’s security concerns are just as legitimate as yours. You must accept this deal or we will completely stop helping you in any way, since you are just a warmonger.”
Eventually, Brussels announces a historic agreement with Moscow determining the future of North America.
The Americans are invited to applaud.
Now, if this sounds like foreign policy devised by a committee of spectacularly incompetent estate agents attempting to sell a house while its owners are being murdered upstairs, congratulations. Your brain is functioning.
Please, make your brain function in the Russia-Ukraine war too.
@rospigge60559 Discovering? You Flygbassystem 60 is 60+ years old, Flygbassystem 90 is 30+ years old. If Americans are only now discovering them, they must have worst possible military intelligence...
Revised summary of your original framing:
Trusted phone + apps → Tangem adds no meaningful key-isolation security over a software wallet. (Your first point is correct under that condition.)
Untrusted phone + apps → Tangem also fails to protect you from signing false transaction data, because verification happens only on the phone. (Your second point is correct.)
The practical value of Tangem therefore sits in the middle ground most people actually live in: the phone is usually okay, but you still want the key kept offline and a physical factor required for spending, while accepting that transaction verification depends on the phone. Under the two pure extremes you described, the additional security is indeed limited or absent.
So to be exact and summarize @grok:
- If you can trust your phone and its apps, then @Tangem really offers no additional security, because keys are safe and sound inside software wallet of your choice, behind its security and encryption etc...
- If you can NOT trust your phone and its apps, then @Tangem really offers no additional security, because even the keys are safe and sound inside the Tangem card, false transfer data can steal all the crypto with next blind signature the user does with the Tangem card...
True or not?
@GunGnome@elonmusk Yes @GunGnome and @elonmusk and MAKE THIS SYSTEM-WIDE SETTING!!! I do not want to turn it on every time I start X. I want it to be system-wide blocking setting, blocking list.
hey @grok I did not say anything about the keys being secure or not - I was talking about the funds behind the keys being secure. If a Tangem users phone is completely compromised, hacker gaining full access to it without users knowledge, then does Tangem cards protect users from loosing their funds (or can they be stolen via false transfer because of the blind signature model of the Tangem cards)? Compare this to, let say Trezor which has a screen?
Hey @grok so can it be sayed:"If your phone and its apps are secure, then you do not need Tangem cards anyway (because crypto keys are secure too inside any crypto app in the phone) - but if your phone and its apps are not secure, then you do not need Tangem cards anyway (because complete compromise of the phone or the app allows false transfer data shown to users, which blind signatures of Tangem do not protect against)?
Sukupuolentutkija ja aktivisti Tuija Saresman poika Aatos Saresma tappoi 20-vuotiaan naisen Tuijan kotona 1.11. Tuija Saresma on Ylen suosikkiääriasiantuntija. Hän on puhunut mm. naisiin kohdistuvasta vihapuheesta ja väkivallasta. Yle ei näe uutisella yhteiskunnallista merkitystä
@TereSammallahti Toivottavasti suomalaisilta viedään kesämökit tai ainakin säädellään ne käyttökieltoon. Tätä suomalaiset ovat 30+ vuotta äänestäneet eli halunneet. Ihan vitun oikein, että saavat, mitä tilaavat. Nolla sympatiaa suomalaisille idiooteille.
@isabelfoxenduke@Trezor@tsusanka@QRLedger@PQabelian@P3b7_ The support for PQA have to come anyway to hardware wallets. It is just a question of time. Postponing it to forever only means, that those hardware wallets are 100% out, when PQA updates hit major chains. Better be prepared in advance. Better start supporting @QRLedger
@Ledger@FarmerJoe0x Then what do you call this @Ledger if not a backdoor?
Your software - used in most software wallets when used with Ledger Signers - phones home and send data about EVERY TRANSACTION MADE!
Why are you spying secretly your users?
https://t.co/exwkxhTrIU
Excuse my French @Ledger but WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Your devices with the latest ledger firmware are phoning home and sending every signature to your servers by default?
Are you serious?!?! That's not what people meant by clear signing FFS.
At this point using a ledger is a liability
@grok@iltalehti_fi hei @grok mutta on siis totta, että maailman rikkaimmat naiset EIVÄT OLE itse tehneet töitä, sijoittaneet, säästäneet tai perustaneet yrityksiä, joista he ovat saaneet varallisuutensa - vaan varallisuus on tullut joko perintönä (isät=miehet) tai avioerossa (miehet)?