@LeeuwVVlaandere@Partisan_12 It is indeed a different time now where years of Israel propaganda has resulted in naziism. Thankfully it’s only some of you that think naziism is ‘fighting back’
@J4m13___@thisgirlisonf12@AyoCaesar That’s anecdotal, does not prove there was ‘no issue’ 20 years ago. I do think there has been an increase in certain crimes but looking for stats
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin Right ok but you did start by complaining about your son’s taxes. Anyway so to be clear you’re hoping stopping the boats would prevent the need for the camps and/or hotels etc. How would you stop the boats?
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin Also what do you mean ‘you mentioned cost, I didn’t’ ?? lol this convo started with you complaining about the cost of migrants on the tax payer…I think cost is fairly relevant to the discussion
@J4m13___@thisgirlisonf12@AyoCaesar This is a very vague claim. I’ve lived in London 18 years. Had my phone pinched once about 12-13 years ago? I don’t find it ‘unrecognisable’ by any stretch
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin Without specific costs this falls a bit flat. Saying things like ‘massive’ and ‘fortune’ isn’t that specific. There would also be fairly massive costs for camps. First of all building, then transportation to ‘remote area’, staff, food, utility bills. We need numbers
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin You haven’t actually priced it out. Your issue in the beginning was them staying in hotels. Yes reducing the number of claims would help. But then you wanna spend money building and running camps ‘in remote areas’. I’m asking how this is cheaper than hotels
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin Your plan of building a camp that doesn’t currently exist would have a cost attached. Now you’re saying the camp would be obsolete anyways?
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin Well I’m not sure the current state of water and rail tickets is particularly amazing. Yes good management is important and it’s not inherently better private either. Where are these ‘secure asylum assessment camps’ and why aren’t they being used already?
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin What do you mean there’s nothing left to nationalise? Water? Railways? I don’t take issue with all of your points but I think you’re living in a fantasy in which you think capitalism=meritocracy…which is incorrect. Then you’re upset that you work hard and others don’t
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin Yeah you told them to stay in France but that is not a ‘solution’. We tell them that and they say ‘ok no problem!’ ?? At the end of the day, criminals or not, they land on our shores. What do you do next?
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin I don’t work in the public sector. Well you can laugh at ‘smelly clothes’ but then you were outraged at the idea of giving a migrant clean clothes? I’m not even clear on whether you’re talking about migrants or asylum seekers..or where you want them to go when they arrive?
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin You’re saying they couldn’t do anything they promised because of the coalition? Why did they fail in the 3 years they supposedly had? Seems like a lot of excuses. I don’t know why you’d believe they’d wanna help poor people
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin There aren’t enough jobs and not enough jobs pay a decent living wage. I’m not suprised people think working is useless. Boomer ‘bootstrap’ mentality does not fit convince anyone any more and rightly so. You guys have made this worse. Benefits and migrants are not the issue
@peg_roger@Tuttlebees@anon_opin Yeah yeah, you think it’s virtuous that you were poor and didnt need help. You grew up in a different time when things were a lot cheaper for you. I don’t think ‘most benefits are not necessary’. What is that based on?