investor in services businesses (B2B, financial and tech services)
ex-Investment Banking at BAML | ex-PE at HGGC | ex-operator at Integrity Marketing Group
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The story here isn’t about how to sell a business but the difficulty of competing directives. I lived this before as a former PE guy, then operator, where my CEO had me hold the line with the sponsors and I consistently was getting side eyed because of it. Drove me crazy, so I left.
@bonapartay Agreed. We bought one 6 hours door to door for my BIL, who was the ceo and it’s amazing the strain it put on him. Was the key factor on selling earlier than planned.
@YankeeGehrig4@BigJohn043@LeylaKuni Here’s your example:
Buy a business with 50% construction/install revenue and 50% service/maintenance revenue. From there, acquire service heavy targets until the split is 75/25 service/install. Ta-da the multiple will go up based on qualitative measures, not ‘market’.
There are lots of founder-run businesses that are bad for employees and communities. Underpaying employees, threats and avoiding following standard legal hr and compliance standards. The reality is that the same complaints of PE are true of family owned small businesses but PE has a tighter dispersion of outcomes.
@sourcesandmuses@OneManLBO@Thejeremymhans Thanks. For the same quality asset, how much does that change for $1m ebitda and $5m ebitda?
I’m overly used to insurance brokerage where the multiples are very clear at different ebitda levels.
Calling my manufacturing homies (and well networked compadres)…
What’s your sense of multiples across different sizes of manufacturing businesses?
Core question is this:
- Manufacturing portco with $1M of EBITDA wants to acquire a similar business with ~<$3.5M of EBITDA but no succession plan. How reliably can we get multiple arb and what’s it take to get close to maxing multiple (not talking about manufacturing parts for SpaceX or a data center, just normal but niche products)?
@BoringBiz_@OneManLBO@paulswaney3@Will_Schryver
@paulswaney3 Diversified niche auto. Reoccurring but tied to capex and municipal budgets (not new construction). Somewhere middle of the road to highly specialized, not just cnc or metal bending.
@paulswaney3 Diversified niche auto. Reoccurring but tied to capex and municipal budgets (not new construction). Somewhere middle of the road to highly specialized, not just cnc or metal bending.