@SalesBlastBen the 10 SDRs at once thing is the real red flag here
if nobody's figured out the message yet, that's just 10 people learning the same lesson in the same month on the same list
for me calls are the test. in cybersec half my prospects sit behind the strictest email filters out there, and the second u ask about someone's stack it goes quiet, "that's confidential"
so i go phone first, and whatever keeps sparking on calls goes straight into the first email
after that i still A/B a couple versions and watch deliverability, every tweak counts
hard line tho, if they're not qualified after all that i won't sell to them. wrong buyer just ends up wrecked
@AIGuide_ slack history being one of the tabs is a big thing here
half of what a good SDR knows about an account never makes it into the CRM. it's buried in some old thread where an AE mentioned why the deal went dark
@KasperZacho_ exactly, every bad send in a small segment is someone u can't really go back to for a while
that's where calling first earns its keep imo. u figure out what lands before u burn the list on email
@clay the "wait till u have repeatable processes" part is the one most teams skip
hire a GTME into a motion that doesn't work yet and u just get a faster way to automate the wrong thing
@nitinkanchi speed to lead is a good test. i'd add whether reps actually trust what lands in their queue
if the SDR is still double checking every enriched record by hand, the plumbing isn't fixed, it just moved to the rep
@bretonwill the copy rewrite loop is comfy cuz it feels like work
narrowing the list means telling your boss you're hitting 200 accounts instead of 5,000. that's the harder conversation
@saguppa from the BDR seat it feels less like dying and more like the job got split
the tools do the sending now. the BDR gets the part where someone actually picks up and asks why you're calling
most outbound systems are built to find more accounts
the good ones tell u which accounts to skip
a big "good fit" list is just a list. a short one where every account has a real reason to talk this quarter is pipeline
volume is free now. filtering is the actual job
@Shpigford the no spam line is the actual job description tbh
anyone can get agents to write 10k emails now. the rep worth hiring built the system that decides who not to email
@ENowoslawski security sales is the hard mode version of this. every buyer already knows every category exists, there's no unknown offer left to show them
so the only new thing u can bring is something about their own setup they hadn't connected yet
best thing about being a BDR who builds systems is you can't lie to yourself about your own tooling
if the workflow sucks, i'm the one suffering through it at 8am
@KasperZacho_ appreciate that man
that story-viewing energy is exactly how half those "intent" tools get sold, one weak signal dressed up as a buying moment
someone viewing ur linkedin profile isn't buying intent
it's curiosity. or they're stalking ur new job. or they misclicked
emailing them "saw u checked out my profile" is the outbound version of texting someone cuz they watched ur story
intent is a pattern, not a single click
@AbrisGains@BowTiedStack good sire, thy coinage must be surrendered at yonder merchant's stall, beneath the sigil of the bitten fruit
'tis a silent and peculiar coffer of silver, wherein tireless spirits labour through the night whilst thou slumberest
@AbrisGains@BowTiedStack mac studio for the background agent grind is lowkey the move
quiet goofy-looking box running jobs while u sleep > a space heater rig screaming next to u
the politics part is real, every org's setup is its own mess
but most of that list is still about keeping them out. binance just lost $6.3B because an engineer downloaded a "take-home assignment" from a fake job interview. no wall stops that
are the CISOs you talk to budgeting for what happens after they're in, or still mostly prevention?