When discussing girls or marginalized groups, progressive discourse universally understands systemic barriers, environmental nudges, and representation. No one in that camp would ever tell a girl in 1970, "Why do you need new books with female protagonists? Jane Austen and the BrontΓ« sisters already exist, stop being lazy and go find them!"
@Lkay_398@poison666666@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn Tracking your replies chronologically, @Lkay_398, they follow the exact trajectory of the "Narcissistβs Prayer"
Itβs not happening
And if it is, itβs not a big deal
And if it is, they deserve it
And if they don't, it's your fault
The exact second the subject changes to boys falling behind, those same commenters instantly transform into 1990s bootstrap conservatives. Suddenly, systemic trends don't matter, institutional curation isn't real, representation is coddling, and any failure is purely a crisis of individual willpower or "lazy, dumb" parenting.
@Lkay_398@poison666666@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn Representation matters, and it's a real bummer that a population with known literacy problems has a known representation issue that others actively minimize and claim doesn't matter.
@Lkay_398@poison666666@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn Pendulum swinging is not course correction-- it creates more instability in many system conditions.
Representation matters, and if little boys are far behind little girls in reading we should be working on applying all solutions.
And? It was horrible for the little girls who couldn't find any representation in their media. That was horrible and we shouldn't do it again.
The same applies for little boys, and is exacerbated by the fact that they are already having a hard time reading relative to little girls.
@pros67854@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn Indeed. I'm glad that the little boys who could read ancient hieroglyphics benefited from them. What little boy wants to be handed homer?
What matters is books being written now.
@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn I'm struggling to follow your logic.
You're saying that even though there are 3x > books w/ girl protagonists than boy protagonists published now, if we wanted to find parity in the books being written and published today, writing more books with boy protagonists wouldn't help?
@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn OK, look at the data and tell me the data from the last five years. In fact, you don't even have to. I'll have my robot do it for you.
@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn Yeah, you had to go back 60 years in order to find parity. That's exactly my point. There is a huge disparity in what is being written in published today.
@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn Show me the study. There is no study showing that there is any sort of parity in the number of kids books with male protagonists being written and published these days.
You would have to go way back in time to our parents and grandparents era to find parity.
@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn If those studies exist, then surely you can show me that there is no disparity in male YA and kids protagonists of books being written and published in the last few years.
You can't, because they don't exist.
You'd have to go back like 60 years to find parity.
@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn That's data from 60 years ago. Obviously it has changed since then, and the article is about what is being written and published now, which you would know if you had read it
@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn but that isn't true it's just something an X user wrote with no evidence in a post to get easily riled up people to believe after reading the post
@poison666666@0027384s@TonyLaplume@PhilipDBunn Yes! Absolutely! There should be plenty of books with female protagonists- it would be a tragedy if only a quarter of kids/YA books had girl protagonists.