@StonerArtistGF@JoonSmiyh@Uncle_KyKy I do, I’m an engineer. That one is a hard one to answer yet. But the AI companies will likely have to flip the bill. But that is a very different problem than min wage. That’s more of a “we no longer need money” kind of problem because we have reached the age of abundance
@free5tharmony@kookOfTheWest@xianghu73574129 No it should be your ability to determine what incentives you want to match your goals. My goals and your goals differ because our circumstances are different. Liberty to choose what matters to you gives you a goal to achieve, itself being the incentive.
@free5tharmony@kookOfTheWest@xianghu73574129 Listen a tin of companies give employees stock options. A coop you need to buy into over time, it’s all capital driven to something by the incentives. Yours could be to buy a house or put your kids through college. Liberty is key, capital and incentives make life better.
@free5tharmony@kookOfTheWest@xianghu73574129 Point is the capital and incentive is what drives humans in any economy, remove that you are left only with the incentive to survive. Which is not a good thing.
@free5tharmony@kookOfTheWest@xianghu73574129 Yes they do, but even a coop has to raise money to start. And the investor makes a profit of some kind. It’s a different structure, but the incentive is still there.
@JoonSmiyh@StonerArtistGF@Uncle_KyKy I don’t think people dislike the poor. I get why people want the min wage raised to 20 now 25. But all that’s has ever done is reduce the amount of jobs. I’d rather people with no experience and no skills learn them then pick who gets to. That’s a cruel consequence.
@mehdirhasan@AllJay_AllNight Here is the cliff notes. In 2002 after islamists flew planes into the trade center. INS was split into three with ICE being the enforcement arm of immigration and customs. So it did exist, it was just split into three agencies after sept 11. Happy to help.
@free5tharmony@kookOfTheWest@xianghu73574129 No they don’t. They simply need to continue investing capital and creating the incentive to be productive. That way you don’t have a shrinking or fixed pie, the pie grows and everyone’s piece is more valuable including labor. Envy is pointless
@xianghu73574129 Labor was able to do this because there was capital investment to do it, and an incentive to do it well. That’s what you communist/socialists don’t seem to grasp. Without the capital and the incentive, there is no production unless it’s forced labor.
@JoonSmiyh@Uncle_KyKy No you just will fuck a bunch of people and create a larger class of low skill workers with no jobs living in poverty. You will just take away opportunity. Your heart is there, but these things require your brain, which I’m sure is adequate to understand the consequences
@Steven_M59 You are correct, but I think the tyrants are those trying to keep illegals in our country for power, cause it’s not about being sympathetic to illegals, it’s about power and votes.
@unojen_wood It is money that should be available for short periods of time to help folks find work. Not something permanent people live on. And it does create a money printing problem since we have to borrow money as a country to cover it. And our dollar goes less further. So it’s a problem
@EatingSmallish It’s a minimum subsistence wage for low skill labor to learn skills and get experience so that they can move to more skilled jobs with higher wages. What you want will reduce the availability of those jobs and create a real problem for low skilled workers trying to get ahead
@Ariszn12 Capitalism anyone can be rich communism and socialism are the same, only people in power can be rich the rest of the useful idiots can starve to death
@ATLCWorker Anyone at any income level should fight against it as it will destroy everyone’s life except the few in leadership who can do whatever they want.
@Yusro_web3 Low skill labor is there to learn skills and get experience so you can move to a higher skilled job with a better wage. The net reault of what you want is less jobs more unemployment and more people unable to get the skills they need to improve their lot in life.