@Eve_Priya_Ariel@DanBilzerian@RepFine 😂 you think this helps your case? Ask Grok if the Mishnah is authoritative. The debates among the ancient rabbis in the Mishnah are different. The Mishnah’s style is codified and authoritative — it presents the debates in a compact, final form rather than as open argumentation.
@Eve_Priya_Ariel@DanBilzerian@RepFine No you’re think of the Gemara. The Mishnah is considered the foundational written compilation of the Oral Torah (also called the Oral Law), and it is the central, first part of the Talmud. They believe it was given at the time of Moses and is binding.
@MaxNordau Erm not sure I’ve seen any say it’s the most important issue facing America. Could be that it’s your ability to engage in logical reasoning that’s being destroyed.
@ThePoliProphet@JoshuaW4145@rabbriansamuel What are you even talking about? It’s like you can’t track an argument at all. My entire point was that Paul’s was saying weak believers ate only veg to avoid eating sacrifices to idols? Are you simple?
@Gentile4Messiah@SolaSixMillion Are you aware that the apostolic fathers, church fathers, reformers all believe in the hat you label Replacement Theology?
@ThePoliProphet@JoshuaW4145@rabbriansamuel Can you find me an apostolic father, church father, reformer or any of Christian before the 1800’s that takes your position? Does that not tell you something?
@ThePoliProphet@JoshuaW4145@rabbriansamuel Nope, I am certainly not saying it’s contradictory, the apostles agree with Christ. I’m saying it’s wrong to declare some parts of scripture more authoritative than others… which is what you claim
@ThePoliProphet@JoshuaW4145@rabbriansamuel No you misunderstood. Weak believers would only eat vegetables because Old Testament food laws forbid them to eat food sacrificed to idols.
“Replacement Theology,” IE historic Christian Covenant Theology, was the ONLY perspective on Israel and the church until the invention of Dispensationalism by a bizarre Irish End Times sect in 1821.
So-called “Replacement Theology” is the viewpoint of the Church Fathers, Athanasius, Irenaeus, Justin, Tertullian, Jerome, Augustine.
It’s the viewpoint of all three pillars of Christendom; the Roman Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, and Reformed Protestantism.
It’s the viewpoint of the Reformers, like Luther, Calvin, Knox, Zwingli, and Melanchthon.
It’s the viewpoint of the Puritans, like John Owen, Thomas Watson, Thomas Goodwin, Stephen Charnock, William Perkins, Richard Sibbes, John Flavel, and Thomas Brooks.
The “sermon that founded America,” the Shining City in a Hill by John Winthrop, was a sermon on “Replacement Theology.”
It’s the viewpoint of the Non-Conformists and Congregationalists, like Philip Doddridge, Matthew Henry, John Bunyan, Isaac Watts, and Richard Baxter.
It’s the viewpoint of the great 18th and 19th century preachers, like Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield, Charles Spurgeon, J.C. Ryle, Andrew Fuller, William Carey, Robert Murray M’Cheyne, and Charles Hodge.
It’s the theology of the Westminster, the London Baptist Confession, the Savoy Declaration, the Heidelberg, the Belgic Confession, and the Canons of Dort.
It’s the theology of Presbyterianism, the original Baptists, Episcopalians, the Dutch Reformed, the CRC, the CREC, the original Methodists. and Congregationalists of every stripe.
Your theology is newer than sliced bread, newer than commercial aviation, newer than the automobile, newer than the telephone, newer than the lightbulb.
John Nelson Darby cooked up Dispensationalism in the 1820s while the rest of the Christian world was still confessing what it had always confessed. Charles Spurgeon was already preaching to thousands at the Metropolitan Tabernacle before Dispensationalism had finished inventing itself.
Your eschatology is younger than the Republican Party. It is younger than the Confederate States of America. It is younger than anesthesia. The men who argued Nicaea into the ground had never heard of it. Every Christian who lived and died in the first eighteen centuries of the church went to glory without a Rapture chart, without a rebuilt Temple, without a Great Parenthesis, and without a single thought that God had two separate peoples or that unbelievers have access to Abraham’s promises just because they’re related to him (allegedly).
For the love of God, literally, disagree with historic Christian doctrine, but say so. To present a 19th century novelty that the entire Christian world rejected for being new, as the de facto position of the historic Christian church, is vulgar and a violation of the 9th Commandment.
If you were to tell any renowned preacher or theologian you’ve ever heard of before Darby that unbelieving Jews retain Covenant blessings and promises outside of Christ, they’d have tried to exorcise your demons, tried you for heresy, or put you in a cage and charged a farthing to come look at you, because that’s a theological sideshow act they’d have never heard of. Calvin burned people at the stake for less.
You can find historic figures who believed that God was not done with the Jews because they believed in the Ingathering of the Nations, that God would draw every nation to Himself, and that Jews would one day repent of Rabbinic Judaism and be saved the same way Eskimos and aborigines are saved, by faith in Jesus.
What you cannot find - not a single one - is a theologian, church father, Protestant or Catholic figure who believed Jews who currently reject Jesus are the chosen people of God, that they are entitled to the promises of Genesis 12 that Galatians 3 explicitly says are not for them, or that it’s the religious duty of Christians to form a protectorate for a body politic in Palestine that rejects Jesus in its national charter.