Heath Clark

I am married to an amazing woman Father of 4 Redeemed sinner Liberty Lover Former State Representative GA District 147 Financial Professional

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@rlukegoddard @gothburz *clicks show more*
Nope.

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@MDHensley5 @grok @Neardoowhaler1 @Valentine3873 Do you ever ask anyone to pray for you?

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Because she was still alive during the writing of the NT. You see in Revelation the saints in heaven presenting our prayers to God. Rev 5:8 ; 8:5-8.

In the very earliest artifacts found in the Catacombs you see imagery and letters. It is what the church believed and practiced going all the way back to its inception

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Galatians 1:8-9 (ESV)
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

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@OhJoeHenry @Colonel_Whiting @EWErickson I have it's a great prayer. He prays that we are one as he and the father are one.

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@Lobes @grok @Mahira_K06 2022 WC in Qatar was in the winter

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@MadMikeIsenberg They don't believe in the divinity of Jesus the same way Christians do. The LDS change the definition to theological terms to say, they believe in things like the Divinity of Jesus, but it's their own version and not the Christian definition.

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@Colonel_Whiting @EWErickson Jesus' claim to being God is precisely why the Jews wanted to kill him for blasphemy.

John 10:30:
I and the Father are One.

John 14:9
Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God

[Heath Clark @HeathClarkGA]

Wrong. You can read early church fathers and see exactly what they believed. It was the rise of heresies on the nature of Christ that the Nicene Council was convened. The nature of Christ and the trinity was taught from the very beginning and the creed is a defense against heresy. But some dude comes along in America and says that Christianity has been wrong for 1500 years.

Mormonism is polytheism cloaked in Christian vernacular. LDS changes the definitions of Christian doctrine terms to say they believe in them. IE the divinity of Jesus but LDS's definition on his divinity isn't the doctrine that Christians have always held. LDS teaches that Jesus is a spirit child of the Father and a heavenly mother...meaning there was a time when he was not. He is the first among all of us that pre-exist as spirit children before being conceived into this world. Then LDS teaches that we can become divine ourselves have our own creation and spirit children.

This is not Christian.

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Except LDS redefine Jesus and he isn't the Jesus that the Bible describes and that the church confesses and submits to. LDS believe Jesus is the spirit child offspring of the heavenly father and mother. Not that he is co-equal eternal one with the Father. And that you too are a pre-existing sprit child that can one day become a god yourself.

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I think that's the point. Mormons make up their own definition of terms outside of the established definitions in Christianity so they can say they believe in Christian doctrines. However, it isn't the doctrines of Christianity.

IE Mormons say Jesus isn't created. However, Mormons believe Jesus is the spirit child of the Father and that we are all pre-existing spirit children. However, Jesus is simply the first born. The only difference with Jesus and every other person is that Jesus didn't enter creation through human conception.

Mormons believe in the preexistence of the soul and that humans can achieve exaltation to divinity and have co-equal status with Jesus and become gods over our own creations and produce spirit children.

This is not Christian. It is polytheism guised in Christian vernacular.

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@ThrillaRilla369 How many cities are in Atlanta?

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@JoshPateCFB You could put UGA in over OK and get a rematch of the 2017 Rose Bowl semifinal and then Kirby vs Lane. Then UGA vs AL (nearly always an instant classic your choice of rematches to choose from)

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There really aren’t any rules. You just go to court. If it fails, go to court again until a judge says you’re all set.

Want a 7th year?

Sure

Broke rules?

Ahhhh, it’s fine.

There AREN’T any rules.

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@stoolpresidente Stick to pizza reviews.

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I am not Catholic. And you are unwilling to acknowledge that the church has taught this from the very beginning and was held by everyone including the Reformers. So you who are separated by 2000 years now know better than those who were there?

Paul uses the Greek word for brother all the time in the NT when not referencing direct blood relationships. So here goes a deeper dive.

Paul had just visited Jerusalem (~3 years after his conversion) and met Peter (Cephas) and this James. There were multiple men named James in early Christian circles (e.g., James son of Zebedee, James son of Alphaeus—both apostles). Calling him "the brother of the Lord" distinguishes this James as the prominent leader in Jerusalem, closely associated with Jesus (the "Lord"). It functions like a title or identifier: "James, you know—the one known as the Lord’s brother/kinsman."...His cousin

In short, Paul used adelphos because it was the natural, flexible term in his bilingual Jewish-Greek world for close male kinship or association. It identified the right James without needing modern precision, and it harmonizes with the rest of the New Testament evidence and early Tradition. The choice of word does not demand biological siblings of Mary.

Matthew 27:55-56 ESV There were also many women there, looking on from a distance, who had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to him,
among whom were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.

This verse is one of the clearest pieces of evidence that the “brothers” of Jesus (James and Joseph) are not sons of Mary, the mother of Jesus. It explicitly calls this woman “Mary the mother of James and Joseph” — distinguishing her from Jesus’ mother.

The same two names (James and Joseph) appear in the list of Jesus’ “brothers” in Matthew 13:55: “Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?” This “other Mary” is widely identified with Mary the wife of Clopas in John 19:25 (“his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas”).

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Are you saying that Lot was Abraham's brother and not his nephew?

Again:
There isn't an Aramaic or Hebrew word for cousin...the word for brother was used broadly in the culture and referred to: blood brother, half brother, cousin/nephew or close male relative in the same generation, kinsmen fellow citizen.

Furthermore, you are the one neglecting the historical position of the church including the Reformers and all pre-Reformation churches not just Catholic. It has been understood from the very beginning that Mary was a perpetual virgin and the NT uses the word for brother because there wasn't a word for step-brother, cousin, half brother, nephew etc.

Jesus saying to John "behold your mother" is Jesus acknowledging that Mary had no other biological sons. If so that responsibility would have fallen to them.

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Just like Abraham called Lot his brother though he wasn't. He was a closely related male relative just like James to Jesus.

You are accusing Catholics of denying scripture. I just showed you where they got it from. They are not denying scripture. But, you are the one denying the position of the church from the very beginning. Read early church history. All the Pre Reformation churches hold the same teaching on the Perpetual virginity of Mary. It has been the position of the church from the very beginning. People who lived amongst the Apostles and discipled by them. The one's closest to Jesus' actual life. It is what they knew and taught from the beginning. Even the Reformers Luther, Calvin, Zwingli all held the Perpetual virginity doctrine.

What impact in Christ's ministry? I am not an expert but it isn't necessary to believe for salvation but it does connect and deepens the Virgin birth / Immaculate Conception and it's uniqueness also the typology that connects the Old and New Covenants.

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The bible also has Abraham call Lot his brother (Gen 13:8; 14:14). Lot was Abraham's nephew.

Cultural context and original language used matters. Often the next of kin was referred to as brother in semantic languages and culture.

There isn't an Aramaic or Hebrew word for cousin...the word for brother was used broadly in the culture and referred to: blood brother, half brother, cousin/nephew or close male relative in the same generation, kinsmen fellow citizen.

Then John 19:26-27: From the cross, Jesus entrusts his mother Mary to the Apostle John ("Behold your mother..."). In Jewish culture, this would be odd if Mary had other biological sons to care for her (they would have that duty). This strongly suggests she had no other children.