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/**software engineer (despite what APEGA says)*/

~♡ wear a fucking mask ♡~

[Hoshino Lina / 星乃リナ 🩵 3D Yuri Wedding prep!!! @Lina_Hoshino]

All the AIbros like to bring up the joke that programmers just copy and paste code from Stack Overflow.

Maybe it wasn't a joke to them? Maybe the stuff they worked on was so boring they actually spent most of their time doing that before AI?

[Ken Masters @KenMastersUSA]

I've been writing code since I was 6 years old. My father is a software engineer, and I became one as well.

I really dislike the idea that somehow AI for art is bad but AI for code is somehow acceptable. Its a completely empty ethical position, filled with hypocrisy and double standards.

Why protect the artist but not the programmer? Both engage in human labor. Why does a thing need to be considered "art" and not just the product of our of time, attention and skill?

Why does the artist warrant some greater degree of protection than me and my family?

I deal with AI every day, obviously. I see absolutely no functional difference between a model outputting tokens for art and outputting tokens for code. They're ~exactly~ the same thing, same process, at every step... they just replace different people in the pipeline. That's it.

Picking and choosing which person is more deserving of a paycheck is insane to me; but people love doing it.

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@Kaylerr159438 @_jaipos No, I didn't? I disagree with the idea that coding is primarily copy pasting shit. Maybe for your 1st year programming class if your professors can't be damned to come up with interesting assignments.... but beyond that, no.

[Greibach || Unc Gamer Cyber Vampire Vtuber @Greibach_VT]

So my crashout is that all LLMs are Gen AI, and the effort to define art as "gen AI" and the rest of LLM work as "okay AI" is insulting, self-centered, and hypocritical.

Generating writing, including coding, is generative AI. quite literally. It is generating text and code.

If your argument is that the ONLY line of work that should be immune to AI is art, I don't know what to tell you. Like are you arguing that spending time to learn drawing is enriching but learning architecture, writing, engineering, marketing, analytics have no inherent value for your mind and are fine to pass off to machines?

"No no, we WANT to automate tasks we don't want to do, that's different" as though there aren't millions of people and businesses that don't WANT to make art, they just want it to be made fast, cheap, and "good enough". Sound familiar?

"But programmers embrace AI" well let me tell you a few things. First, not all of them, and/or we're starting to see some of the (IMO obvious) problems with it.

Second of all... I have bad news about programmers who embrace AI. They also are more likely to embrace AI in the areas you think they shouldn't... because they already don't care. They care about the speed and output.

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Anyone who says this has clearly never worked on anything except the equivalent of a to-do app. I haven't gone to Stack Overflow for actual code since I was in my undergrad 💀

[Pearl 🍉 @pearl_ow3]

before ai people would just copy paste shit from stack overflow i promise u most programmers don’t care

[sunwukk @sunwukk990]

Coding, especially in game development, is a form of expression and art. Neither objectivity nor determinism dictates what art is.

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@gangleri_w @MagicCatOkay @poorlyflower At my current job - React + Typescrpt front-end, Typescript backend, ES as the data store, Playwright for automation testing, and RTL + Jest for unit tests. Nice try testing me, though ✌️

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@jdzato1 Mhm. I bet you think 2017 Snapchat filters are GenAI, too.

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@CHISSGAGA "I don't understand why people dislike this thing so therefore anyone who dislikes it must be performative." K.

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@mrabobkin @honorablepicnic Hey - I'm with you. I'm autistic and coding has been my special interest for over 20 years. Thankfully still have my job, but for how long? And enforced AI usage has made my work unrecognizable compared to even just 2 years ago. I hate it here.

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@p2isonline Just because engineers are using it doesn't make it okay or good. I use it against my will at my job as a software engineer because managers literally monitor token usage.

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@zzyythe @nightcitycruise @_miqito_ @TravisV_YT I literally corrected myself and changed my blanket "is" to "can be" in the thread, dude 😭

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@liambrefberinn @AccelRiderX People are clearly talking about GenAI in coding though, not machine learning - don't be obtuse. Claude, Cursor, Copilot... They are all GenAI 😭

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@zzyythe @nightcitycruise @_miqito_ @TravisV_YT Except I would argue that something being "art" isn't objective, which is why I changed my statement lower down in the thread to say "Code **can be** art" in the same way that cooking or woodworking **can be** art.

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@gloriousalastor Maybe for first year programming class. But once you start working at a larger scale in the industry? Yeah.... no.

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Exactly this! I don't think people should throw the whole game away because they used an LLM to debug. But all of this "as an AI hater, I think it's fine if you use it to code" discourse is killing me. I love programming!!! Like fuck off - it is an art to me, not just a tool 😭

[Rich 🐠 Lagoona Blue Shady Facts and Tea 🌊 @rich_litch]

I wanna say my piece with this, but I ain't dedicating multiple tweets, I'm just going to tap the sign

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@zzyythe @nightcitycruise @_miqito_ @TravisV_YT Read further down. No, I'm not.

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@miscellainous @dirtydanima Because LLMs stole the work of thousands of humans, and now multimillionaires are using that stolen work to line their pockets even more.