@MoiraDonegan (like, not to say this isn't a good analysis, but I tend to be wary of any claim that takes for granted that children's lives under patriarchy are easy)
@MoiraDonegan Which, if true, imo makes it a kind of mythologized past, because the reality of childhood is often not one of going unchallenged and without responsibilities; it's having your boundaries violated & your experiences disregarded on anyone's whim, and being constantly disciplined
@sheenzesez@Dubious_Angel Can't believe so many people are abusing these anxiogens. Addiction is NOT the answer. When I feel relaxed, I simply stay awake until 3:30 AM, tense my shoulders, breathe rapidly, and think about my mistakes. Respect your body
@zanyfen adult-child relationship even in the absence of any other dynamic. You imo don't need to attack the idea of consent as necessary and sufficient for people to understand the problem with these, and if you wanna argue against CNC I don't think it would require a new framework
@zanyfen Eh, I don't like this. We already have plenty of situations where something that looks like consent isn't, like in an emotionally abusive situation, in a situation in which one party is excessively dependent upon the other, and obviously the one you mentioned yourself, any
@fiosapple @tslur_goblin @wifeknave@Minignu1@suchnerve Lmao, telling someone they suck is not cause for bringing out the pathologizing language. Very bipolar and/or oppositional defiant disorder of you to do that.
@KingIronfoot The answer is, obviously, that you're a bad person and everyone knows they have nothing to gain from being around you besides the fact that they're, occasionally, obligated to on threat of worse harm by others
@KingIronfoot@badjujulie@bloomfilters Question becomes why are you so lonely ? Why does every person in your life that should be kin seem to utterly despise you ?
@moralesforprez@PaperMartinDev@epistemophagy Well, you were only wrong in that you didn't know about the expression. In practice, the two things are still very much linked imo.
@bloomfilters is it more that there's something between classes that look like gender, classes that look like race, and classes based on a certain idea of labor and private property that really makes them click ?
@madtranny People who weaponize false accusations of sexual assault against queer people & PoC are exactly the sort who enable and defend almost any instance of real sexual assault, which is why you don't compromise with them by entertaining their worldview as legitimate or genuine, ever
@madtranny Problem with this I think is that they take the enemy at their words. Saying hostility towards rapists should be tempered because right-wingers weaponize the accusation is like saying we should be careful about misandry because transmisogynists oppress trans women *as men*
@yungneocon And okay as a last, last thing, I don't think you can ignore the systemically awful, oppressive ways we treat children as a class - and people who are seen as close to it - as either irrelevant here or as something intrinsic to how humans organize societies !