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In the beginning, God… // Psalm 37:23-24

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What prevents me from calling this an icon of Jesus? And if I do, are the Orthodox obligated to venerate it?

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How can you know God’s will apart from His Word?

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@duciellekelly How can you know God’s will apart from his word?

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The saints in Heaven are described by Paul as “dead in Christ.”

They are physically dead and spiritually in Christ.

If I wish to commune with them, then I should commune with Christ because they are in him.

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They genuinely don’t have an answer for this. They cannot biblically explain how such a leap is warranted.

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I’m not sure you understand what it means to be “dead in Christ.”

Their lives are secure in Christ. They are alive because of Christ and His promises.

But this does not mean they are individually omnipresent or capable of hearing our prayers. That’s quite a leap from what the text actually says.

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@Tsar_Martyr @apologiaworship @TheGourdKing The Second Council of Nicaea (787) explicitly defines the term in its proceedings:

“The judgment of anathema is nothing else than that of separation from God.”

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@JTJosephauthor “dead in Christ” (1 Thessalonians 4:16)

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@_ChristIsLord The 70th week was fulfilled in the first century, big dog…

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@swamthetiber25 I’m simply pointing out the false equivalence between asking someone beside you to pray for you and spiritually invoking a departed saint.

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@Bitter_Logic They already have because I already have.

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For anyone waiting for another temple to be built, you’re 2,000 years too late.

The body of Christ is God’s temple.

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@BeSaintly I agree with your criticism. But call the error what it is: dispensationalism, not Protestantism. Plenty of Protestants reject dispensationalism and affirm that the body of Christ is God’s temple.

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This never gets old 😂

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I would be willing to concede that the historical evidence for the intercession of the saints is more compelling than that for icon veneration.

I still don’t believe the practice is apostolic, but that’s another discussion entirely.

I don’t use Chrysostom as some nail in the coffin. Rather, I genuinely agree with what he says here.

It’s one of the main reasons I find icon veneration so foolish.

Honor the saints by imitating their faith, not by erecting images and directing honor toward lifeless representations of them.

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If a person sets up a lifeless image of son or dear one and thinks that person, though dead, is present, and through the lifeless image he imagines him, much more do [Christians] enjoy the communion of the saints through the divine Scriptures, having in them images not of their bodies but of their souls, the words spoken by them being of their very souls.

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2 Corinthians 13:14
Ephesians 4:4–6
1 Corinthians 12:4–6

Bro, it’s not my fault you can’t understand Paul’s words guided by the Holy Spirit 😆

Pat made a claim.
I simply pointed out how foolish his claim was. Now you’re making a claim and I’m having to point out how foolish it is.

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Paul doesn’t mention Mary once.

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You can’t preach the Gospel without Mary.

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@swamthetiber25 “just as” 😂

Sure… spiritually invoking a departed saint is JUST like asking someone who is right next to you 🤣