BroncoDog

I am a law and order conservative with Libertarian leanings, nominally a Republican. From a pioneer family with old time traditional values.

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One more thing. The current makeup of the Democratic party leadership has alienated so many faithful that they no longer have a place. Estimates are that the spurned moderates will meld with the disenfranchised conservatives of the Republican Party to form a new movement. We see it happening with Telsi Gappert and many others. I, a law and order, nominal Republican can believe in it. I spent my adult life trying to protect the innocent just like I believe Trump wants. THAT gets me up in the morning.

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It’s actually the Biblical version that messes things up, namely, how Jesus can pray to himself and describing God as looking just like him. The Bible describes Three separate and distinct Devine beings with one being the Father, another as a spirit and Jesus with a physical body. Three personages. Jesus took a physical body with him to Heaven.

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@LadyDemosthenes Sorry Lady. It is hard being a mom. You can ask for a priesthood blessing.

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@ThoughtfulSaint @ScottK This Catholic guy thought he could show and wing it. It shows. He should have stayed home.

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Good questions. The difference is theism places us in the Celestial Kingdom but we don’t worship those next to The Father. They are gods (small g) but not God whom we worship.

I have been told that Coptic Christians’ Bible includes interesting books that add to that but I have not researched it yet. Coptics are the oldest Christians. They are Egyptians. They predate Catholicism.

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@Truth_matters20 Dig into how the 3rd and 4th century Greeks distorted Christianity. And then research how 1st century Christianity is different. Then research how close LDS theology follows true biblical Christ’s teaching. That will get you started. Then read and study the Book of Mormon.

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@stretchyWombat True. Oh so very true. It is a 4th century Greek myth.

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@IgorIsBack @emuse1955 @ThoughtfulSaint I watched some of that. That guy was Catholic? He was a disaster.

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@PetGorilla They are not Christians in the truest sense. They are Credal Christians who believe in that Greek myth about who and what God is.

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@dttpeople No, I think the Quakers MOONED Joseph.

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@surskitmaxxing Yet it doesn’t.

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@ContraHeresy Do you go to church?

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@Bar_tolmi What brand of religion are you? Or do you even go to church?

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I was going to make some snarky comments but that doesn’t get the innocent reader anyplace.

Every Sunday when I take the sacrament I promise to take Christ’s name on myself. That means I would have one more thing to repent over.

So let me say that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God and our savior. He died on a cross for each of us who engage in rock throwing at each other. Maybe we should slow down. Maybe we don’t give Satan more notches on his gun belt.

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Really good question Brian. The answer is we committed to gather Zion. We made this commitment in our pre-mortal existence. It was part of the plan our Father created and we all - even you - agreed with. Go ask a missionary what that plan is.

I was going to explain it here but a missionaries job is to answer all the questions you have which I can’t do here.

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David, I testify to you that if you are as honest as you claim, our Savior will
speak to you clearly and unambiguously - if you are serious. If all you want is confirmation of YOUR beliefs, and not His, things will not be as clear. That is the difference.

It is hard to know what to do. That is understandable. Sometimes you get stuck. If you have any doubt, take it to your Heavenly Father. If there is never any doubt, then don’t worry about it. You will have another opportunity to hear the Gospel In paradise. The craftiness of men can be overcome. Just be the best, most godly man you know how to be.

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@alfredsparks Jimmie, "reading" means reading ALL the pages. Each word, with an open mind. Not skimming or looking for things that support your bigoted Mormon-hating. You only get out what you put into it.

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@shannonodell Holy cow. This stuff is available online all the time. Read some LDS literature that explains it all. Watch YouTube videos. Do your homework. Don't waste people's time.

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No, YOUR version of God is a 4th century Greek myth. Knowing what God is and who Jesus was is fundamental to knowing who you are praying to and what your relationship is to Him. It matters a lot. In fact it is fundamental to what and who you are too. If you don’t get it right you can’t know what you are.

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That is about wrong as you get. Here is what we really believe: every person born will be saved/resurrected. When you die you go to the “place of the spirits” or “spirit prison” where the Gospel will be taught to those who want to know. Otherwise, decent good people will remain in “paradise” pending the resurrection. Their final heaven - of the three - will be the one they chose. It is more complicated and deeper than that but for conversation sake, that works.

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On the contrary Ryan. It is all over the place. Remember that the f1st century church had a hard time keeping members in line. They kept wanting to mix Christian with whatever local culture was required in order to not get burned at the stake, crucified or even just excluded from family get togethers. Being a Christian was not easy for most of the new converts just as it is today. By 400 AD, Christianity had adopted many local cultural ideas such was we see in the Creeds today. There was no one alive who actually knew an apostle or Jesus for that matter. Many of the early church father objected to what was taught but were overruled by the local dominant religious authority of the time. The NT did not exist. The OT was just a collection of scrolls available to the privelidged. An example is the Dead Sea Scrolls. One society had scrolls but the people did not. Other societies had pieces and parts as evidenced by the Nag Hamada scrolls which talked about divinization and eternal marriage that James, the brother of Jesus held.