She was not teaching church Corine but sharing her story about motherhood. Do you have motherhood and farming experiences you want to share? go for it!
This whole cope that you can get around 1 Timothy because this is X and not the church is just nonsense. You use it as a platform to teach about scripture and church. You fool yourself only.
@AndrewsBob123@ReformedToRome@LizzieMarbach And how do prots deal with John 3:16 or Romans 2:6-8? A wink and nod? ; D
I don't think we can experience election. I don't know what that would or would not look like. Especially in context to all we talked about today.
That might not be known until the other side of death
@AndrewsBob123@ReformedToRome@LizzieMarbach Exactly - the RC account for both sides of this.
See my other reply to your first response.
Reformed in their basis understanding cannot (i don't see it) account for how we experience life. They only account for one side of the coin.
God is sovereign.
We have a choice.
@AndrewsBob123@ReformedToRome@LizzieMarbach Doesn't God abandon many of humanity in relation to predestination and Romans 8?
Reformed would answer you question - cause God wills it for His ultimate glory which we cannot see.
@AndrewsBob123@ReformedToRome@LizzieMarbach So if a child, living in the covenant, baby baptized and taking communion due to profession of faith, Loves God/Jesus - goes to college, meets a girl - lives with her, marries her, and says I don't think i'm christian. Con-man for all those years?
@AndrewsBob123@ReformedToRome@LizzieMarbach I don't think it has to be.
Can that apply to someone who in the temporal moment of their lives, be sincere, baptized believers?
@AndrewsBob123@ReformedToRome@LizzieMarbach if becoming an apostate wasn't a thing - then it can't exist - cause there is no threat from it. ?
Is it a thing? does it exist?
From reformed perspective - there is no such thing?
@AndrewsBob123@ReformedToRome@LizzieMarbach Hmmmm..
I see the RC's making the entire council of scripture simpler.
Not one sided.
God shared John 3:16b as stated above in 2 replies.
Roms 2:6-8 .... Rom 8:30
Synthesized in simplicity.
God knows.
But we must cont. to cooperate cause we can apostize.
@AndrewsBob123@ReformedToRome@LizzieMarbach How does that fair with John 3:16 w/ "whoever should believe" - there is a manner of choice in that - to do or not to do.
I see RC position account for this.
I see RC position account for Romans 8:30.
I do not see reformed position account for both sides of the coin.