@NotNotShit@NeoSphere73 He still essentially killed himself. Touko even said it herself afterwards. Despite coming out as the victor, his body still took the impacts of Beo's attacks and caused irreparable and life-ending internal damages.
Sounds like a berserker to me, killing yourself just to win.
@AssistantMagus@NahimanaRaoul What they're asking is a normal grail war, which is fine. But that's not a proper holy grail war, a war that actually followed the rules can't really be called a war. A proper holy grail has masters racing to be the first to get the grail and nothing else matters other than that.
@AssistantMagus@NahimanaRaoul Because at that point, it's no longer rule breaking, but just became the identity of it. Solidifying that the grail war is not a competition, not a tournament, but a war. Like, you said, different strokes for different people, but what they're asking is not a proper grail war-
@AssistantMagus@NahimanaRaoul It is elitism to say that the show you like is the only thing that got one thing correct to the literal product that started it in the first place.
If there's a holy grail war that is supposedly done correctly, it is fsn for virtue of simply being the first.
@idfk6969696969@NahimanaRaoul Their criticism is just "it's not fate zero so it's bad". We're not twisting anything, they're making the clown make-up themselves.
@AssistantMagus@NahimanaRaoul But we're not laughing at the zero fans for liking it more. We're laughing because since they like it more, it is the only valid one.
They're both literally saying that zero is the only one that actually delivered a holy grail war, our point of interest and ridicule.
@EwertonLeoncio@TypeRamza Garden of Avalon LN.
I haven't read it so I don't know if it really tells the story of Artoria but from what I've heard, we get a lot of stories concerning her and Camelot
@mrmonkeyman0 @MorbyOof So why is it bad when its loli? Its basically the same thing, doing something bad in a fake world, so what makes the other so bad but for some reason the other is acceptable? Im not gonne defend that its not weird or its not child porn, but in end, its fiction, nobody gets hurt.
@mrmonkeyman0 @MorbyOof You have answers, but its not an answer that im looking for, its a simple yes or no answer, you're just straight up trying to avoid it dont you? Its very weird that a simple yes or no question is left unanswered but something thats a tiny related is answered.
@MorbyOof @mrmonkeyman0 Seems like a very positive and at the same time negative response to a argument to just get it over with, cant blame ya, if you want to close argument as soon as you, feel free to do so.