The prime directive of civilization is to organize labor and resources into systems and institutions that optimize the scientific, productive, and human well-being outputs.
The goal is to organize an iterative civilization, which treats human civilization like an engineering problem.
“Get in line, wait for your turn”
The only ones who actually follow this advice are the docile members of our population. Anyone with the slightest bit of agency doesn’t do this. Nobody running a business, competing in the market, or trying to get a promotion and do well waits for their turn.
Obviously in a society you need some civility and order at the buffet line, but it’s more of a symptom of the culture and what we’re teaching kids. This kind of phrase is used culturally and it’s getting seared into our psyche.
Get in line and wait your turn for college apps. Get in line and apply for jobs online and wait for your turn for an interview. Do you know how many videos there are of unemployed college grads. They don’t know what else to do but keep applying, working a part time job on the side, and posting on the internet.
Do you think Elon or Jensen or Google are just waiting for their turn for HBM allocations or are they being proactive about it. It’s literally just the general public that does this. After 12 or 13 when kids get civilized, erase this low-agency phrase from their psyche.
“Mind your own business”
“Let’s not get political”
“Get in line, wait for your turn”
These are evil phrases that weakens civilization and make the population docile.
“Let’s not get political”
It’s odd how we are a “Democracy” or a representative republic, and freedom of speech was so important to the founding fathers that it was literally the first amendment they wrote down. Lots of people died fighting for that right, to be able to talk about your rulers and have a stake in the course of your nation. And then we just go and self-censor ourselves at work, friendships, and public spaces from talking about politics.
That’s literally what you’re supposed to do, particularly when you live in a Democracy and are supposed to be voting on things, you’re literally supposed to be talking about politics to each other. How insanely stupid and backwards that. The only ones who benefit are the political class. So instead of talking about politics amongst yourselves, you can only get all your ideas from the media.
Do you see what’s going on here. Literally the single stupidest place to enforce “don’t talk about politics” culturally is in a democracy. Literally the worst place to do this.
Talk about politics regardless how it makes people feel, you’re supposed to be an informed voter, not some cattle.
It’s not a hard question, low birth rates simply mean we are approaching the carrying capacity of our environment.
The systems, institutions, technology, and productive outputs of our societies today have a natural carrying capacity.
Capitalism has a much higher one than communism, but both have a carrying capacity of some # of humans with our given technology.
Blaming culture or wokeness is nonsensical, Kim Jong Un literally held an all-women’s assembly encouraging them to have more kids because the birth rates were low. Can literally find that video on YouTube.
I can’t believe this is still an “open” question. There are no developed country with a birth rate above 2, and that’s because they are literally, developed, and are close to the carrying capacity of our technology, economic system, and the way we go about doing things today.
From a biological perspective, do you really think we never had selection pressures from over population? There are deeply ingrained mechanisms within us to slow down. Somehow, someway, we intrinsically know when the environment is reaching capacity and then our brains gives us reasons to stop.
This is literally a known thing in ecology, it’s just more primitive and natural with animals. But I’m willing to bet humans have experienced selection pressures with over population as well and there are mechanisms that allow us to detect and then influence our psychology and actions.
No matter what your theory about birth rate collapse is, there’s some data point that disproves it. Japan didn’t have the pill when fertility collapsed. There are highly patriarchal countries where fertility is collapsing. It’s collapsing in countries that are still poor. It’s collapsing in places with more generous social support for families. It’s almost like a psychic alien just decided to phase humans out.
“Mind your own business”
What goes around comes around, we live in a society and everything you say or do to another person affects the society you live in, because we are naturally very social and herd-like.
This is an incredibly decadent thing to believe in. If your neighbor is raising their children terribly, that is indeed your business because what if those children grow up fcked up and commit crimes and degeneracy. & what happens when there are 100000s of those parents doing that simultaneously. That is totally going to affect society and you.
People say mind your own business because they think society can afford to take the hit and it’s not worth the confrontation. But you’ll never say mind your own business to a family member who’s being neurotic, lazy, temperamental, or making the wrong decisions. You care for them and you want them to do well. Why do we stop ourselves from doing that in society?
It’s a great way to self-regulate ourselves with culture and without explicit laws. You need a culture that allows people to confront and correct net-negative behavior.
Another key aspect is, since we no longer have a cohesive value system of what is right or wrong and our culture actively hates standards, you’re not allowed to instill your morality to others, (unless it’s the value system of the bureaucracy).
Why else do you think our society is dying in front of our eyes right now?
A society must have a shared value system of right and wrong and what we collectively want to achieve. The people need a socially acceptable way to confront and correct net-negative behavior. This is non-negotiable for the long-term health of a society, we need to do net-positive things for civilization or it will decay and collapse.
It is the degenerate filth who actively stripped that away these natural self-regulating mechanisms from us through devious, cunning, and sinister means. Remember growing up people would say, “Don’t judge me” or “Don’t judge others”.
I will absolutely enforce civilizational standards upon you, degenerate filth. It is actually my duty or else over generations our civilization will decline and collapse, as you can clearly see now.
Degenerates, decadent people, criminals, foreign agents, and net negatives want you to strip away standards and dilute universal values. This is anti civilizational, this is evil.
I think that’s a factor, but we’re all biologically wired to reproduce, and these instincts were in us before we developed a proper frontal cortex.
Reproduction is not logical, it’s pure instinct. I think the reasons for low birth rates must be very primitive and biologically rooted, not frontal cortex stuff.
@grok@RapidReport2025 Btw your list sucks and is hard to read. I want a list in chronological order, with the status autonomy, and if not, the ruling entity. And at the end I wanted a count.
@grok@RapidReport2025 Ok so I was largely right, please list out a pretty detailed timeline starting from Saul the first king to now, and mark the years of full self governance, relative autonomy, and under foreign rule. And then count the years for each category.
@grok@RapidReport2025@grok are you saying Israel had pretty much no real autonomy and self governance between when Babylon destroyed Jerusalem and after the Holocaust