@EEAST_UrgCare@OliSmith91 FICB (landmark and USS guided) currently sits under the APCC scope in EEAST.
Arguably, APUCs should be targeted towards supporting crews with safe admission avoidance, no? Hopefully leaving a full complement of APCCs to support with this...
@Junaid_APP@hazzajg@JBPara999@antkitchener@iampaulgates Completely agree, Junaid. A blended approach where mentored RRV shifts with an AP/APP/ACP-CC (or other abbreviated job title) gives the option of some of the cons you list (list obv not exhaustive).
Systems with an interchangeable operator model is also pretty key ๐๐ผ๐๐ผ
@hazzajg@JBPara999@antkitchener@iampaulgates Also, to competently and confidently work at sub-anaesthetic level (L2 in EEAST), you probably need to have the fundamentals down of working in an anaesthetic capable team (L3) first. This is only (reliably) achieved by working as part of one of the region's HEMS teams.
@hazzajg@JBPara999@antkitchener@iampaulgates It's not about the mode of arrival, it's about the supervision and increased exposure you get on HEMS vs solely RRV.
Increase your responding radius โก๏ธ increased chance of exposure
@hazzajg@JBPara999@antkitchener@iampaulgates EEAST/EMAS are different beasts, the critical care provisions are very different. We are well represented in EEAST by several HEMS charities, offering a solid platform to learn & develop your critical care practice. Incorporate mentored RRV shifts & it could be a great pathway
@hazzajg@JBPara999@antkitchener@iampaulgates Exactly my point made in other replies, geography/demographics differs wildly in EEAST and the pathway to Critical Care has to be standardised. This can't be achieved with some trained on RRVs and others in a blended approach of HEMS/RRV. 1/2
@hazzajg@JBPara999@antkitchener@iampaulgates IMO, I'm not sure a road based resource in the EEAST region would offer enough exposure to sign off (with confidence). A 5 year pathway (tACP to ACP-CC) involving HEMS, mentored practice on an RRV, and with certain milestones to meet seems the way forward.
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@antkitchener@EEAST_UrgCare@EEAST_Education@SJB293 Agree, there's definitely some great steps forward in progressing both specialties. Wonder if there's scope for some regular regional training days for each specialty too? The feedback from the tACPs training days is very positive ๐๐ผ
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