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rn, i'm giving unsolicited advice to vtubers and find it fun, even though it's rude

don't mind me, just posting random thoughts about internet chicanery.

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@Jeanne_Hamada @amimochi0 Hold on, what about the fake chest part?

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@TheTankWilliams @Selene_Mariposa Real
parents should be more responsible so we can bring back PlayPlace!

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel I'm not trolling you. My replies have stayed on the topic and stayed polite.
You’re saying my position excuses bad practices and just dumps responsibility on clients. That’s not what I’m doing.

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@flerberdinherd1 @EmDesi @grok I would love to see artwork of a successful physical media artist. Please show us your work

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@ZackSilverstone @AbraxosHerald @Comrade_Del So you agree that your argument has no credibility whatsoever.
Thanks for pointing that out.

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@Comrade_Del @deadhardware I agree with getting something from the Asian side. You can get more affordable and better outputs from them.

A problem you'll likely come across is language barriers.

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@King_Elsydeon @Comrade_Del @AracaUwU Please don't say that an AI is better than you. You don't deserve that.
AI is faster, that I can agree with.
Is it cheaper? Yes.
Is it more reliable and better than a human illustrator in every quantifiable and non-quantifiable metric? No.
Ask any AI you want.

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel I'm sorry I have to post this in multiple screenshots. It’s too long for a single reply. Please read through the points when you can. Thanks for understanding!

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel I didn’t skip the points. I addressed the main ones:
>Ownership & source files: Base payment usually covers streaming files; editable source is commonly treated as a separate (higher) deliverable, similar to other freelance work.

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel I explained why people may want alternatives, not why this specific program is justified. Showing that a market has prices people dislike doesn't establish that converting rigging files is justified. That's the distinction you're skipping.

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@Myzidya @AracaUwU @Comrade_Del This is what I've been saying. If a client paid for a service that only includes a license to use the work, they can't unilaterally assume they also have the right to modify the work. Usage rights and editing rights can be separately licensed and priced.

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@AracaUwU @Myzidya @Comrade_Del Finally, a statement I can agree with.
A seller can put a huge price tag on their work, but that doesn't guarantee buyers will accept it. People will choose services based on what they consider worth the price, and trying to shame them into paying more won't change their decision

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel I don't think either of us has the data to establish exactly how much supply or demand affects these prices, so I'm not claiming anything about their specific impact.
My point is simply that there are many factors that can influence price.

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel That's why it's a market. Here's a car analogy for you:
You can buy a Mustang or a Ferrari. Both get you from A to B within the speed limit, so why is one more expensive? Because consumers value more than just the basic function.

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel That's not the point I'm making.
I'm saying effort isn't the sole factor determining price. Demand, supply, competition, and what customers are willing to pay also affect pricing. That's different from saying riggers can charge whatever they want.

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel Higher prices aren't necessarily determined solely by how much effort goes into the work. While improved tools can reduce the amount of effort required, pricing is also affected by demand. The VTuber market has grown significantly, which has increased demand for rigging services.

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel I'm sorry, please allow me to clarify since I cut my response to make it shorter.

The base prices of rigging services have gone up, while demand for complex, high-end rigging and advanced tracking has also increased significantly.

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@KanaviHakurei @Comrade_Del @AracaUwU Just keep thanking your god and stfu if you don't actually have any intellectual contribution to the discussion.
have a good day, mate

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@Comrade_Del @AINO_X_Channel I'm not sure how riggers generally structure their TOS regarding model updates by other riggers, so I wouldn't make a claim about what “no rigger ever” does. I can see that some riggers treat the cmo3 source file as a separate purchase though.

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@KanaviHakurei @Comrade_Del @AracaUwU Crying? lol if all the points I've raised in this topic is just crying to to you, then you're just some idiot riding the dicks of actual intellectuals on here.

Using tools to edit moc3 files into editable cmo3 files means you get the rigging info you can feed into the AI.