All people are made in the image of God and therefore have rights, deserve dignity, and should respect each other. Let's remember to treat each other well.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife Sure. I’m “completely disregarding” the rights of a woman, in the same way I would disregard a person’s right to murder another person unimpeded.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife Yeah, I’ve addressed this already. I think we are at a point where we can’t really continue adding much to this conversation.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife Males should be 50 responsible for their offspring. If you can invent a way to get men to gestate a pregnancy, great. Otherwise, this argument is useless pertaining to killing your offspring.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife Well, apparently you haven’t been listening to me. Yes, it’s about me controlling others…in the same way I (and, I expect, you) would wish to control others not raping or murdering each other.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife Addressing the reasons that women choose abortion would reduce the numbers of abortions. It says nothing about whether killing the child is moral in the first place.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife “The argument” I am making (and have been making) is that you shouldn’t kill humans you knowingly had a hand in making. The woman allowed the possibility of sperm impregnating her. Putting 100% of the responsibility on the man in that situation is completely unreasonable.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife No one is saying the woman must parent. I understand that you would like for things to be fair here. It’s just not possible. It’s just how our species is made. Also, “women don’t get the same deal as men, therefore they get to kill someone” is not a sound argument.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife The laws for men are already in place, in the form of child support, and such. If you find pregnancy taking place only in the woman’s body offensive, you’ll have to take that up with nature.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife She participated in the reproductive act willingly and of sound mind, then she is also responsible. Also, when did I ever say women weren’t fully human with rights? Of course they have rights. You are purposely straw manning now, it seems.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife As I said, ridiculous argument. She let him enter her knowing contraception could fail and life could be created. Unless you are referring to him getting a vasectomy, in which case she also could have gotten her tubes tied. It takes two gametes to reproduce.
@4NonyaBusiness@SusanHak19@secularprolife It’s ridiculous to lay 100% of reproduction responsibility on one sex, certainly. Reproduction cannot happen without both, as you well know, which is why I say this line of reasoning is ridiculous.