@smithwriting@realJennaEllis Yes, but TULIP strongly supports their judgement of who is elect and who isn’t. If you don’t PERSEVERE then they confidently and arrogantly judge people. Very wrong and very hurtful. It’s not just one bad apple.
@5Solas Pope Leo XIV: Christ didn’t merely demonstrate love on the Cross—He became flesh to find us, became a slave to free us, took upon Himself the sin of the world, and died to give us life.
The Cross is not merely proof of love. It is God’s love accomplishing our salvation.
@5Solas Calvinists have done a poor job administering their confessions and teachings. There isn’t any one confession that all Calvinists agree on. Compare to Catholicism. What does that mean to you? If you really believe Calvinism, stop wasting time on X. Calvinism is shrinking.
@smithwriting@realJennaEllis I joined the RCC at Easter after being raised Baptist, attended Moody Bible School for 3 years, served in ministry at AoG, independent, Vineyard and attended Reformed churches. Calvinists told me that I wasn’t a real Christian because of my behavior in an addiction. Ouch, wrong
The Westminster and Heidelberg catechisms are confessional documents of Reformed traditions. The CCC is a universal catechism of the Catholic Church, promulgated by the successor of Peter after consultation with the world's bishops, and intended as a comprehensive reference.
See the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
CCC 600 — God's eternal plan
CCC 604–605 — God's initiative in salvation
CCC 1730–1742 — human freedom
CCC 1996–2001 — grace and free response
CCC 2010–2011 — grace and human cooperation
And even where these are officially adopted, they are explicitly subordinate to Scripture. For example, the United Reformed Churches describe the Three Forms of Unity as their doctrinal standards while explicitly saying their authority is subordinate to the Bible.
And it is intended for the whole Catholic Church, not merely one national church, denomination, synod, or theological school. It has subsequently been translated and disseminated worldwide.
John Paul II described it as a “sure and authentic reference text” for Catholic doctrine.
The Vatican describes the CCC as a systematic presentation of Sacred Scripture, the living Tradition of the Church, the authentic Magisterium, and the teaching of the Fathers and saints.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church was commissioned by the worldwide Catholic episcopate, drafted through an extensive consultation process involving bishops throughout the world, approved by the Pope, and promulgated as a universal reference text for Catholic doctrine.
“You have the Westminster Standards. Let's put them alongside the CCC and compare what each tradition actually teaches about grace, freedom, election, justification and perseverance.”
The Westminster formulation explains salvation through God's eternal decree, election, effectual calling, and irresistible grace.
Catholic teaching says grace is necessary and always precedes our response, but it does not make the response the result of an irresistible decree.
The closest Calvinist/Reformed equivalent to the CCC is the Westminster Standards, especially the Westminster Confession of Faith (WCF), Larger Catechism (WLC), and Shorter Catechism (WSC).
There isn't one single Calvinist catechism accepted by all Calvinists.
@smithwriting@realJennaEllis The Westminster Assembly was not simply “the Church teaching.” It was an assembly convened in a particular political and ecclesial context to formulate a Reformed confession. Its authority derives from the Presbyterian/Reformed tradition not from apostolic succession.