Kimmo Rytkönen

Serial Founder in Fintech & AI. Startups, management, building with AI. Based in Tallinn, Estonia, the best place in the world 🇪🇪

[Kimmo Rytkönen @KimmoRytkonen]

Lots of talk about the future being abundant.

I’m not sure about this.

The technology that abundance would result from is in the hands of a few, and their character will define how the future looks like.

Knowing humans, I’d say it’s 50/50 at best on dystopia/abundance.

[Kimmo Rytkönen @KimmoRytkonen]

Always build so you can swap models. When API prices double, work needs to move to better value-per-dollar models unless a frontier gap holds it.

Also, API tokens aren't really subsidized anymore, it's flat-rate subscriptions where heavy users still get it very cheap though. Thinking if/when prices will rise universally or limits get cut?

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Less code and less attack surface is fair but who finds bugs? Linux has millions of users hitting edge cases for you, while a prompted OS has one.

You might never even see the error happening and thus there´s nothing for you to react until it has compounded.

Same issue with most vibe coded apps to be fair.

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@amasad Who eats a wrong purchase. Card disputes were built for a person who clicked buy, and "my agent misread the brief" isn't a reason code yet?

Probably daily spend limit and review on what was bought still necessary.

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@errnews Small network, one boiler house, and no easy way to switch means captive customers. Residents say a quarter of the bill is rent for the boiler and pipes, passed on in full.

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@kylegawley Address the risks by building the moat that does not exist through regulation?

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Lots of talk on my feed about @bot and @Muse as if they were almost human, but in reality an agent is just a model inside a harness = ordinary software that keeps memory and takes actions.

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@Kevinkrone None of the "frontier" companies have a moat, but Fable 5.2 is pretty impressive.

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@Sherifdeenolat2 I consider it the cost of learning new things. Better than any course I could take.

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@errnews Of everything the state could spend on, abundant energy at stable prices would do the most for the economy long term.

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@Gundys69 Have you checked whats eating the rate? I´m pretty much using the bots freely ,and the token consumption seems far less than last week.

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My rough math on the finance ministry's forecast says more than half of Estonia's growth this year comes from government spending, while the budget deficit widens.

Next year that spending flattens, so households and exporters have to carry growth just as energy prices and Euribor squeeze them.

@eestistatistika do you publish GDP growth split into public and private sector contributions? It would be useful for seeing where the growth is coming from.

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@cursor_ai Would like to know how this handles two agents making different assumptions about the same thing. Running several agents myself, the bugs I worry about are the ones that never throw an error. More agents coordinating means more places for that error to hide?

[Kimmo Rytkönen @KimmoRytkonen]

@lennysan PM openings up 75% from the 2023 low fits what I see building with agents. They write the code fast. The slow part is deciding what to build, speccing, and catching when it runs fine but is quietly wrong and that needs someone who knows the domain.

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@GrahamStephan Tend to agree, how can you retain pricing power when you have so many players and the local models to compete with. This is likely not a race, where only one wins and gets a dominant position like Google Search…

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@errnews No mention in the article of cutting operating costs and the city's own budget strategy has debt rising every year and operating spending growing with it, betting on tax revenue to close the gap.

[Kimmo Rytkönen @KimmoRytkonen]

@thecsguy @iam_fernandob @bot @elonmusk Token burn problem solved here as well, and yes agree on it making sense to check what tasks burn most tokens. Before the fix, I did optimization as well to reduce burn, and (hopefully) increase accuracy in recurring tasks. Too early to say if I succeeded.

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@errnews No easy solutions to the aging demographic problem, but I´d start from shrinking the state and growing the economy 🇪🇪

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@OnatAksaray And if you ask why, you get four more paragraphs, equally confident 😆

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An LLM model is just a statistical machine that continues text, and it's a black box whose outputs can't really be explained. Feels like human reasoning at first glimpse but is far from it.

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@iam_fernandob @thecsguy @bot @elonmusk You've moved from what I said to why I supposedly said it. But we agree that ignoring the complaints was bad customer service.

But would you agree that if prices stay the same and quality drops, as per my earlier point, that's bad for everyone, including people on small budgets?

[Kimmo Rytkönen @KimmoRytkonen]

Not flexing, just saying that even at 100$ a month the value I’m getting is far more = I’d personally pay more to keep getting that value.

The frame was that if the unit economics are unsustainable like @elonmusk said, they should not cut down on quality but rather increase prices. Ideally of course we’d get the best quality at lowest price, but if thats not available then quality over price w Grok Bot.