LightSpeedKatholikos

Roman Catholic

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@MattTheHewR @RealLifeEvilMan @HangedGod88 the depiction in question was straight up hearsay but even assuming he castrated himself, this would amount to literally nothing related to any tradition related to Christianity (pick whichever one you want, RC, OO, Protestant)

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@MattTheHewR @RealLifeEvilMan @HangedGod88 In case your retarded ass didn’t know, this is supposed to be a depiction of Origen of Alexandria who while being a very influential ecclesial writer, he is not recognized as a saint by any Christian church whatsoever by any denomination. Furthermore…

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@ilhasx @albanianthomist @Thomisticae The real alternative is atheism because if the claims of the SSPX are true, then clearly God has failed His Church and we ought to all become solipsists

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@baddiesgetmoney @ChampagneAnyone It would be preferable for a man or woman to spout a million racial slurs than to engage even in a single act of fornication

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@Csenxbf2 @Sc4peGot @howlinghowler_ No christian in their right mind worships any people whatsoever. We only worship Christ. If you were truly Arab and proud, you wouldn’t be homosexual

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho contradiction of terms on the latter idea. The latter idea (according to them) would be an attempt at affirming and negating the union of the natures

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho Pretty sure their answer would be that both statements you mentioned involve a human conceiving of the Incarnation, and that to conceive of 2 natures prior to their union is logically coherent whereas to say 2 natures after is incoherent by virtue of a…

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho Which if what the OOs say about Pope St Leo (and his legates) is true about his rejection of “from 2 natures” in the formulation of the Chalcedonian Creed, then not even Pope Leo would agree that saying “from 2 natures” and “in 2 natures” are equivalent ideas

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho I think you’re kind of assuming the implication here that because they say “from 2 natures/hypostases in the mind” that it necessarily entails “in 2 natures/hypostases in the mind”.

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho for purposes of contemplative speculation or to distinguish properties which are due to each nature as such (what they are and what they are capable of) for self-knowledge about the mystery and such

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho I don’t think they would say according to temporality, that the human nature is ever created before the union. As to epistemology, I would assume they’d say the human nature is only “created” apart from the divine nature before the union…

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho As opposed to Two in concrete particular reality (the position of Nestorius I presume)

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho Sure, something purely in the mind alone does not necessarily exist in reality but wouldn’t the retort be that man’s conception of Christ’s Incarnation involves him dividing into distinct concepts, something which is One in concrete, particular reality?

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho That is to say an equivocation between the temporal and epistemic sense, at least according to what OOs affirm afaik

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@GloveAcademia @ApostolicOrtho So the lead up of each of the questions from the EO into the climax (in my opinion) of the 4th one seems like a concession the OO would never make and simultaneously seems to equivocate between the senses in which the incarnation occurs…

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@Alazreth @Fawxcs @sarahwillcry @ByzCat @seethroughit2 which is colloquially tied to our people-group in particular. That the God who created the universe used the Jews as the group of people from which His very Incarnation would arise from doesn’t mean very much anything beyond that

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@Alazreth @Fawxcs @sarahwillcry @ByzCat @seethroughit2 If the “God of the Jews” is truthfully the God who created everything, then that it comes from them or from any other tribe in particular is irrelevant unless there’s some metaphysical impetus we are all bound to whereby we MUST worship this or that god…

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@Alazreth @Fawxcs @sarahwillcry @ByzCat @seethroughit2 He is a mere man to whom worship is not owed.

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@Alazreth @Fawxcs @sarahwillcry @ByzCat @seethroughit2 Because IF that guy in question was truthfully God Incarnate, then EVERYONE is morally obligated to worship Him for everything He has done for us. You’d have to presuppose that He isn’t who He claims to be to proceed to the just conclusion that…