@BathStadiumTalk @The_ChrisWarren @BathRoadSafety @BathEcho The numbers are right; on the low end. 1000 cars a day more on school days, on Sion Road alone. This is a conversation about the merits of this trial, and impact on those in the area. Those who oppose the intervention will have different views on the stadium, that's not the topic
@BathStadiumTalk @BathRoadSafety @BathEcho@BathStadiumTalk Is that directed at this account? This account is from July 2024. Focus here is purely on the actual impact of the Lower Lansdown ETRO, specifically Winifred's Lane
@BathRoadSafety @BathEcho To implement a bus gate on Cavendish Rd is to make a deliberate choice to send cars past St Andrew's school, and up Morford Street. The trial has shown that. More cars past schools and more houses on unclassified roads. Can you point to this being the 'first proposal'?
@BathRoadSafety @BathEcho @BathRoadSafety Cavendish Rd carried less traffic than Morford St pre trial, and has fewer houses on it. Morford St is even higher now. WL had 1200 cars per day, now all split between Sion Road and Morford St, in both cases past a junior school.
@BathRoadSafety @BathEcho That's not true, given 100s of people live there, but also what's worse is that the alternative routes (there are 2 only) both send cars past schools, and more houses, including on unclassified roads. As the trial has demonstrated.
This is what was warned of. This hits the tripwire in the scheme's Equalities report "In introducing the through-traffic restriction there may be displaced traffic to other roads where schools are located. This will be monitored throughout the duration of the trial."
@awjre @BathRoadSafety @bob_combedown@ColinBlackbur20@BathNESGreens@BNESLabourGroup You're defending an unsafe scheme by arguing for another one; and when holes in that are shown, then saying the solution is to reclassify a residential road with houses either side. The least worst outcome here is how things were with a dedicated AT route through Sion Hill campus
@awjre @BathRoadSafety @bob_combedown@ColinBlackbur20@BathNESGreens@BNESLabourGroup It was a direct response. A bus gate increases right turns from Marlborough Bldgs to Julian Rd, sending local residents past St Andrew's, and Kingswood/Garden traffic back up Sion Rd or LC to Lansdown Rd for a main / side turn. Modal filters here cause worse downstream impact
@awjre @BathRoadSafety @bob_combedown@ColinBlackbur20@BathNESGreens@BNESLabourGroup A bus gate on Cavendish still send through traffic via those junctions. Why are you ok with traffic on residential unclassified roads like Morford Street? Why are you not loudly shouting that a scheme that currently sends traffic past two junior schools should be stopped?
@BathRoadSafety @MysteriosoX@landatthebottom Council cameras captured this happening repeatedly last week. There are plenty of videos. You had a video starting at the top bollards but deleted it - how did you get there? This was flagged well in advance of the trial. Avoidable with a dedicated AT route as per the local plan
@awjre @BathRoadSafety @bob_combedown@ColinBlackbur20@BathNESGreens@BNESLabourGroup That just prioritises the 69 houses on Cavendish Rd / Crst over the 79 on Morford Street, sends school traffic over LC, and significantly increases road danger by sending all residents north of WL far further through roads where the accidents happen. Worse.
@awjre @BathRoadSafety @bob_combedown@ColinBlackbur20@BathNESGreens@BNESLabourGroup Yet you are on the side of increasing road danger on residential unclassified roads in Lansdown, unless you'd like to publicly denounce it. And not by advocating for a bus gate that sends all school traffic over Lansdown Crescent, or against residents on Sion Road corners
@awjre @BathRoadSafety @GreenGroupBANES@clrjoannawright@SaskiaHeijltjes Winifred's Lane isn't bounded by main roads; its western boundary is unclassified, has 5 blind corners, & a school. It breaks LTN 1/20 guidance on gradient by 5X and has 4 critical safety failures on the Active England route checker. Ignoring principles doesn't help there either
@IoneSarnia @BathDrivist People accessing their homes within the LTN area via Cavendish Rd or Lansdown Crescent (the only two through routes in the LTN area) are rat runners? Everyone going home to Somerset Place / Sion Hill / Summerhill Rd / Hermitage Road / Sion Rd / SHP / Waldegrave Road is one?