@Sejik81@Arda_swe81@IDF You need to differentiate between the PLO/Hamas/Fatah/etc and regular Palestinians.
Otherwise, you would set the precedent that Jews have done this or that. Whereas it was IDF/Haganah/Irgun/Lehi/etc and not regular Israeli Jews.
Careful.
@AnaKasparian@panhandlehoops The first paragraph makes sense.
The second paragraph too.
But, Hezbollah’s actions are interfering with peace in Lebanon. Just like the many parties put down their weapons decades ago, it’s time for Hezbollah too only if those get transferred to the Lebanese Army/gov.
@Justinredalen@AnaKasparian@panhandlehoops America funds Israel, just like Iran funds Hezbollah.
So yes those bombings have to do with Israel because Hezbollah/Iran knows that attacking America/its soldiers means it weakens them + Israel by extension.
Not defending their actions though.
@AbouElLeil10452 The Lebanese people who have the Palestinian flag are standing with the oppressed Palestinians. They know that the PLO was problematic in Lebanon but they realize that governments ≠ the citizens. The citizens deserve the support and should not be penalized due to gov actions.
@SarcasmicCD@jja6767@journo_ben The Nakba was Palestinians ethically cleansed from modern day Israel and now mostly present in the West Bank + Gaza, with others in neighbouring countries, and a small minority stayed in those borders (modern day Israel).
Also the bottom stats are supposed to be 2023 to 2026.
This is not a normal statement from a normal cabinet member of a major nation.
This statement from Israeli National Security Minister Ben-Gvir is the statement of a war criminal.
The racist, extremist Israeli government does not deserve one nickel of U.S. support.
I'm Jewish, British & 64
All my life, I wondered how the Holocaust could have happened. I understood that Hitler & others were EVIL, but how did millions of ordinary people go along with it?
NOW, seeing how so many in the West rationalise & defend the Gaza Genocide, I feel I have an answer and it is profoundly disturbing
@ChelsLex1905@SilentlySirs Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Israelites. THEY were arabized and Islamized. SOME came from Arabia but those are the minority.
So it is their land.
That being said, Israeli Jews also have ties to the land. Both are indigenous but the Palestinians suffer much more.
The controversy over the vision of Donald Trump for Gaza by Mehdi.
This is one of the best debate on this topic I have seen in a while.
Most of the people debating against Mehdi are either weak in debate or have little knowledge about the whole situation in Gaza.
@Messanger0fBaal If it means people are choosing Christianity then it doesn’t really matter which denomination.
It’s still a big win.
Consider looking into it.
Israeli minister calls for kidnapping of Lebanese women and children to break Hezbollah morale
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Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir urged the political-security cabinet to abduct and imprison Lebanese women and children as a psychological warfare tactic against Hezbollah, according to a closed-door leak published by Hebrew news outlet Walla.
During a high-level ministerial meeting reviewing expanded military calculations, Ben-Gvir demanded that Tel Aviv abandon conventional strategy and explicitly target the social and familial core of the Lebanese resistance network.
"We must think outside the box regarding Hezbollah," Ben-Gvir asserted to his fellow cabinet members, according to the report. The Israeli minister added that alongside occupying southern territory and intensifying lethal strikes on personnel, Israeli forces should actively round up civilians.
"We should arrest their women and children and take them to prison; this is what hurts them the most," he stated.
@Angela46951592@ShawnEni You might be following the herd by thinking that following 🇮🇱 is the Christian thing to do, even though their government(s) have shown us their atrocities countless of times.
You can support Biblical Israel + Christianity of course by extension, but modern Israel ain’t it.
It is okay to be Jewish.
It is okay to attend your local synagogue.
It is okay to celebrate Hannukah.
It is not okay to use white phosphorus on civilians in Gaza and Lebanon.
@Huckleberry60@JayTone382636@c3t1p99@AbubakerAbedW@FIFAcom As for your last comment, a people don’t need to have a sovereign nation in order to exist.
Do Assyrians exist? Or do you not acknowledge them because Assyria isn’t a country?
@Huckleberry60@JayTone382636@c3t1p99@AbubakerAbedW@FIFAcom To answer your question, they have attacked numerous press members in Gaza & Lebanon, innocent people, paramedics, people who weren’t a threat to them. It’s deliberate and when they (IDF) get called out on it, they say it was an “accident” or even worse, they blame the victims.
@Huckleberry60@JayTone382636@c3t1p99@AbubakerAbedW@FIFAcom In the context of self-DEFENSE, yes. We don’t support violence if it’s for offense.
If Israel’s enemies are attacking -> Israel can defend themselves. But remember this for the Palestinians bc although SOME land was paid for, some was captured through violence from the Zionists.
@Huckleberry60@JayTone382636@c3t1p99@AbubakerAbedW@FIFAcom We shouldn’t support violence no matter who.
But since you say that you justify Israel using violence from their neighbours, then you imply that you are okay with Palestinians using violence from the Zionists who were also violent towards them in the late 1800s/early 1900s+