@mononaut@blockhead4000 Yes, they do. And if they tell you they don't, just yell at them very loudly, inches away from their face, and call them a stupid bitch. They like that as well.
@HomericFuturist Spengler was right.
The old must pass away until only base barbarism remains.
Only then can a new vital civilization emerge, but the roots of the new can be fertilized by the old.
@2pac2furious Somebody with more motivation than me should make a meme of a beautiful pheasant in fully extended plumage, and there's looksmaxxing lines, percentages and ratios all over him and he gets a failing grade.
@AMarks64054@VladimirSuvor I think boomer parenting is emblematic of what we see increasingly today, which isn't an epidemic of physical discipline, but rather total neglect and treating adults and children with parity.
@AMarks64054@VladimirSuvor Revenant's take is just liberalism. I completely reject this "I fucking love social science" nonsense, even if you try to make it sound cool by being racist. My grandparents aren't nons throwing chanclas. I'm simply not going to entertain this false dichotomy.
@Raskisti@lemurdaze Yes, and they also emphatically proclaimed mild spanking as abuse, and made many notes of its detrimental effects in their DSM.
You can go look up what Athenians thought about corporal punishment. What you're suggesting would be laughable to them.
@AMarks64054@VladimirSuvor The defining characteristic of the model of authority over boomers was not corporal punishment. I mean, contra to your earlier point, they have absolutely ZERO issues with self-confidence.
Corporal punishment predates the boomers. The "greatest generation" before them were also spanked. The remarkable thing about boomers isn't that they were spanked, it's that they were spoiled and allowed to completely wreck society with endless totems of liberalism.
What I will agree with you on, is that corporal punishment carries heavy weight. It shouldn't be taken or dispensed of lightly. It can more readily be used as a cruel tool to break a person like a horse than it can be used as a tool to guide. But just because that's true, it doesn't follow that there's an unequivocal categorical moral argument against it.
@AMarks64054@VladimirSuvor I can name you a litany of non-violent parenting techniques that have a chance of breeding resentment and low confidence. The point is it's not an either/or. There is no good categorical moral argument here either way. There's not even any proof that this "old way" bore no fruit.
@BigthinkerBig@ThomLately@iFBugFights There's also no scenario where you HAVE to put their nose in a corner and make them stand there humiliated. There is always some way in which you can deconstruct punishment like this.
Again, I didn't read past your first paragraph. I'm not a high time preference kid hitter. I just reject the notion that morality began with the advent of modern social science, which is a liberal disposition whether you vote for Trump or not.
And yes, leftists subject their children to innumerable forms of abuse that don't involve hitting at all. That is an important point. As the article that kicked off this discourse stated, spanking is at an all time low and yet child abuse seems prevalent in ever multiplying forms.
@relaxed_lurking@kenzietuff I'm not posting anything for you about "beating children".
If your morals begin in the mid-20th century when the industry of social science became the fashionable spiritual arbiter, you're a libtard. If your moral vision doesn't go beyond decades, you're a libtard.