@maxdantoni@Luca_Fantuzzi La stessa domanda la si può fare riguardo tutti i rifiuti tossici (ma non radioattivi) prodotti, secondo questa logica non ci dovremmo sviluppare perché "eh ci sono X rifiuti che dovranno essere gestiti per sempre, cosa impossibile". 0 senso.
@roobar1984@OskaArcher@ember_energy And look what happened. Germany choosing renewables over nuclear has been a failure. Same thing could be said for other countries, Italy included.
Not choosing to use nuclear has been a failure, it was decades ago and it still is today.
@roobar1984@OskaArcher@ember_energy GHG emissions/material use not included.
It depends on how good solar/wind is.
Here in Italy wind is pretty bad and solar is concentrated in the South. Grid investments would need to be massive, and we would most likely pay more in a 100% RES Italy vs a nuclear + RES Italy.
@roobar1984@OskaArcher@ember_energy And that's good, but moving towards renewables and nuclear would be better given nuclear has lower GHG emissions, lower land use and lower material use.
In Italy in 2010 we had solar investments for 120B, if that was for nuclear the results would've been much better.
@roobar1984@OskaArcher@ember_energy I mean Germany has invested hundreds of billions in solar and wind, and it still has, per Ember, 8x the carbon intensity of France's grid.
Also, 20 years ago nuclear opponents said it would take 20 years, if we built it, we'd have more clean energy available.
@diaryrauch@aa_gilli@tito We always have electricity surplus. And it's the market that decides the price, Italy's fault for relying too much on gas, but then we can't build nuclear
@Florianrbck@BleiLennart@tito@Maxime__Laroche I mean last night at some point it literally was 7%, and that same website says in 2025 3.67% of Germany's consumed electricity was imported from France.
@NXT4EU No, and it's not like you can just transport an electron produced in Sicily to Denmark with the same ease as transporting it to Rome.
Grid infrastructure is insanely expensive, we need better planning and much more nuclear.
@BenAntRaho No it wouldn't. Geo is limited to a few GW, wind is good (still worse than Northern Europe) in only a few places, solar is good in Sicily but you'd need to build (and pay) a fuckton of grid infrastructure.
Bills are high but not 3x Spain, they're slightly higher than Spain.
@brufucus@andre6798b@EU_Propaganda Ci vogliono anni si, ma se non si inizia non si arriverà all'obiettivo del net0.
Inoltre Silvio non voleva quelle di vecchia, voleva gli EPR, generazione III+, ossia quella che domina il mercato al momento, quelli che dovremmo fare anche noi (non per forza EPR ovviamente).
@EU_Propaganda That data isn't really correct tho, it's market prices, not electricity bills. Bills in Italy are still high, but they're much closer to Spain and Germany, not 3x Spain.
Funnily enough, her gov has installed way more RES than in the previous 10+ years.