Aidan Mattis

YouTube Creator | “Forensic Historian” | Anglican Catholic in Training ⚓️

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@GenHeres123 It’s in the book

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The Romans sentenced people to death by forcing them to fight lions for entertainment.

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@GenHeres123 You could just read the Bible

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@GenHeres123 The Book of Revelation is very clear that Hell is temporary, and that after the Apocalypse those who maintained the rebellion against God will simply be purged from existence. No eternal torment, just the thing atheists already believe in.

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@GenHeres123 That’s not what the book says if you actually read the whole thing

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@bronzebellator @PolemicusA6650 If you concede that my overall point argument that Christmas does not derive any of its core traditions from paganism, I’ll concede that there are some region specific aesthetic/festive traditions which may have pagan roots.

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Do you? It’s not pagan. Even remotely.

The dating is derived from a simple calculation based on the belief he was conceived at Passover. Jury is still out on that to some extent, but it’s not from Sol Invicta.

The celebrations we currently have are all high or late medieval in origin, developing long after Europe became Christian.

There is zero connection to paganism anywhere in the holiday.

[Chad Felix Greene 🇮🇱 @chadfelixg]

You... understand the history of Christmas right?

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@psykolus Origen was also declared a heretic

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@psykolus Sol Invictus wasn’t even a Roman god until 274 AD.

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You haven’t provided evidence, and now you’re playing semantic games.

When someone says Christmas is pagan in origin, they’re clearly implying that the religious aspects of the holiday are derivative. They are not, nor are any of the core traditions which have evolved over the millennia.

As for the aesthetics, you cannot argue that using fir boughs to decorate in the winter is pagan any more than you can argue that lighting fireworks on the Fourth of July is Christian.

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The pagans had been celebrating around that time forever, but if Christmas was listed in 354, that means it was being celebrated before that date. Due to the chronology, it’s very unlikely that the feast day derives from Dia Natalis.

My position has always been that the two are likely not derivative of one another.

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@calebcoulter19 @Darthpatriotth1 People tend to forget how long the period between the decline of paganism and the birth of these traditions was. The medieval era spans a thousand years.

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@CatholicAce Guys an idiot

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Further explanation on the Germanic side of the argument.

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As with Easter, the only connection here is the name. Yule was the Old English word for the period roughly covering the months of December and January. “Yuletide” is simply a term for that season, relatively synonymous with “wintertime”.

The Yule Log is a regional accoutrement to the Christmas celebration, and it’s not even definitively pagan in origin. It’s first attested in the late twelfth century as a Christmas tradition, and may or may not be derived from an older Germanic pagan tradition.

That being said, the only thing that appears to have been preserved (assuming there is a direct connection) is burning a large log on December 25th. The supposedly pagan tradition involved pouring bread and wine onto a log in the fireplace.

Even then, it’s unclear if that practice actually predates Christianity.

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Occasionally, the Boomer mind stumbles upon good policy

[Mark R. Levin @marklevinshow]

The Democrats impeached President Trump a second time and actually had a trial in the Senate when he was a private citizen.  Therefore, I propose the impeachment of every past president who is still alive for military operations in which they never received a declaration of war -- impeach them all and try them all -- as this is the new standard.  The same for every past, living SecDef and SecState.

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The Victorians created a LOT of ideas out of whole cloth.

As I’ve repeatedly told you, there are no sources supporting your claims. There are vague references to perceived pagan traditions which cannot reliably be dated to the pre-Christian era, and all of them are aesthetic in nature.

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@RogueCenturion @Astro_Eggcelent If I’m in your hyperbaric chamber clearly something has gone wrong with my life

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@bronzebellator I spent several weeks researching this and writing about this. There is no strong evidence for your claims, and aesthetics do not have inherent religious value.

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The more appropriate historical interpretation is that the Romans adopted the 25th of December as the birthday of Sol Invicta as a counter the rising popularity of Christianity.

Christmas was dated to the 25th in the 230s AD, and we don’t have any reference to Dia Natalis until 354 AD, where it’s listed alongside Christmas.

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@RogueCenturion @Astro_Eggcelent Not gonna lie I would actually find you and torture you if I ever ran into one of your spiders

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@redneckratholos I know

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As with Easter, the only connection here is the name. Yule was the Old English word for the period roughly covering the months of December and January. “Yuletide” is simply a term for that season, relatively synonymous with “wintertime”.

The Yule Log is a regional accoutrement to the Christmas celebration, and it’s not even definitively pagan in origin. It’s first attested in the late twelfth century as a Christmas tradition, and may or may not be derived from an older Germanic pagan tradition.

That being said, the only thing that appears to have been preserved (assuming there is a direct connection) is burning a large log on December 25th. The supposedly pagan tradition involved pouring bread and wine onto a log in the fireplace.

Even then, it’s unclear if that practice actually predates Christianity.