✡️ Fighting for universal recognition of children's right to bodily autonomy and integrity. If you want me to shut up about circumcision, then stop doing it.
@president_goku@steinkobbe I know your post is besides that point, but I just want to say that I don’t find your trivializing of the issue or painting it as a right wing “groyper evil” as particularly helpful or respectful. It’s not a political issue, it’s a human rights issue.
@president_goku@steinkobbe Large swaths of the intactivist and restoring community are LGBTQ+, vast majority are not antisemitic or harbour hate for anyone. They just want protections for basic human rights. Nobody deserves to have their bodily autonomy and integrity violated like that.
@maiaoskernation @feraltrann @notsoErudite I don’t even know why I’m trying to defend some position here. Okay, by this definition you’re right. I don’t think circumcision is done to males just because they are males. Have a nice day.
@maiaoskernation @feraltrann @notsoErudite Misandry can only exist under these conditions? Why is it that as the patriarchy is disassembled and attacked more and more (rightfully so) nothing changes about social antipathy to men’s suffering and the violation of men’s fundamental human rightsThe issues aren’t linked 1to1
@maiaoskernation @feraltrann @notsoErudite We’re going in circles. I don’t think we actually disagree about anything. But for me, that willful ignorance translates to a lack of care, an unwillingness to view me as human. Consider, beyond hygiene, that some parents cite “aesthetic” reasons. It’s cruel, plain inhumanity.
@maiaoskernation @feraltrann @notsoErudite All I’m saying is our secular society’s antipathy towards male infants and children’s human rights is a reflection of a broader misandrist reality in which men cannot be victims, only perpetrators, of social ills. Whether this is a product of patriarchy is up to interpretation.
@maiaoskernation @feraltrann @notsoErudite Believe me, I have no interest in absolving religious people. But in North America specifically secular circumcision stemmed from Victorian medical ideals and repressive views on sexuality promoted by medical professionals and entrepreneurs like Kelloggs
@feraltrann @notsoErudite My body my choice is a principal widely upheld in secular North America. Only applies to women though. It’s clear cut misandry. Men don’t have human rights like bodily autonomy or integrity, because we can’t be perceived as victims. Only naturally unfeeling perpetrators of harm.
@feraltrann @notsoErudite It is illegal to modify a female child or infants genitals in North America, it is perfectly legal to do so to a male. Millions of babies are harmed this way every year and many for non religious reasons. False assumptions about hygiene or aesthetics. It’s misandry.
@MiltQLlamaIII @MuMANspirit I am mutilated. He has friends. Maybe look beyond your own ignorance and stop resorting to petty insults. Reflect that you are sitting here trying to defend the non consensual genital of infants. You are not the normal one here.
@human_torso @girlypiIIed Yes a "circumcision joke" - telling men they cry too much about how they had their genitals non-consensually mutilated as infants. Very funny indeed! Much like other jokes about rape and other inhumane and cruel acts, just so funny! Cutters are the sick freaks