@jdlichtman Yes. The interesting part is what happens next: the residual isnโt just novelty, it's evidence that the current representation is incomplete. The real creative act is finding the representation in which today's residue becomes tomorrow's compression.
@evelovesolive I think the deepest opportunity is closing the loop: theory, experiment, updated theory. The competitive advantage isn't just having better hypotheses, it's learning faster from falsification than everyone else to evolve the hypothesis.
@DimitrisPapail My guess is the bottleneck isn't Lean itself but workflow integration. Once proof generation, verification, and fallback become seamless, formal methods stop seeming like an extra step and will become part of the reasoning loop itself.
@evelovesolive Yes. And a third moat: verified outcomes. Models and harnesses can both commoditize. What's harder to replace is a system that knows which model to use, proves the result, records failures, and accumulates trusted operational knowledge. That is the infrastructure that compounds.
@ylecun@francoisfleuret This is true for the current GPU frame, but not the deepest wall. "Moving bits" is the wall because we represent intelligence as dense tensor traffic through a separated memory/compute hierarchy. The real Q is: how to change the representation so fewer bits need to move at all?
@tonylfeng Yes, this is the key distinction. A benchmark should evaluate not just outputs, but accountable mathematical process. For AI4Math, proof traces, autonomy, verifier calls, and failed routes should become first-class artifacts, otherwise the result is too easy to game.
@tonylfeng Exactly right. The useful axis is not "AI is good at field X, bad at field Y," but what kind of search geometry is this problem exposing? AI is strongest where the pieces, constraints, and local moves are visible, and weaker where the missing representation has to be invented.
There is a structure there, and the mathematician gradually aligns themselves with it. Mathematical alignment means iteratively stripping away your own assumptions until the object's inherent constraints dictate your formalism, not the reverse.
@evelovesolive@BorisHanin Fascinating work, Eve. Is Kona scoring which partial continuations remain possible under constraint? If so, how is that learned field converted into formal knowledge: reusable lemmas, obstruction classes, proof strategies, or abstractions, rather than a one-off successful search?