@blink64@BowTiedRanger Except the earliest churches, Antioch, Rome, Alexandria, etc., were able to produce bonafide records of their ordination histories tracing back to the Apostles.
Many of the heretical sects, which claimed apostolic succession, could not. They only used portions of the Bible too.
@DaveDaStratFien@Moody698451@DrSweets24 Hospitals, Universities, Charity, Orphanage, and marriage ALL come out of not only Christianity, but the Catholic Church.
Hopefully, you’ll see the absurdity in your statement but in my experience, people with the most incorrect takes are the most stubborn to hold on to them.
Connecting young people to digital networks serves no purpose if they remain disconnected from themselves, others, and their own interiority. We must help young people rediscover silence, reflection, the ability to ask questions, the depth of relationships, and openness to transcendence. To listen to the soul, we must lend an ear, because the soul's voice is not a shout, but a whisper.
@Snake_With_Feet@TacomanTxo66741@EvanGreen_txt ..unless of course that is how the Church passes authority to individuals within it…just as Scripture shows…in just how many verses have I cited? 7?
I think your anti-Catholic presuppositions really deter you from seriously engaging with the topic tbh.
@Snake_With_Feet@TacomanTxo66741@EvanGreen_txt You constantly misrepresent what the Church teaches.
And ANY time you are corrected, you totally ignore any self-reflection and just pivot to another misrepresented point. Again and again and again.
“I haven’t done anything wrong though”
Spoken like a child. Not 1 point made.
@Snake_With_Feet@TacomanTxo66741@EvanGreen_txt John 20:23. Acts 14:23. Titus 1:5.
Scripture is full of examples of authority being passed down. Timothy and Titus if you want individual names.
Extra biblical sources include Clement of Rome (95AD), Firmilian of Caesarea (170AD), and Hippolytus of Rome (269AD).
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 1) This is laughable - Hebrews 6:18 conceptually prevents your attempt at establishing an infinite regression
2) You totally misquote Aquinas in an attempt to gain support for this silly position
3) As the original video states, this is all an attempt to blame God for your sins
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 So your argument is that if God can create a being who was deluded in believing that he was god with no way in discerning otherwise, then there’s no way for God to know that He Himself is uncreated?
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 God is not logically incoherent.
You have not demonstrated this, nor will you ever demonstrate this, because He is not.
It’s an indignity to my intellect to put me through any more of your ridiculousness.
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 I don’t understand your question. I don’t even think you understand your question
How do I apply free will equally to humans and to non-earthly beings? What?
All I know is that Scripture teaches both human and angel alike are endowed with free will - to follow God or reject Him
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 A fun quip. I heard it when I was a boy. I thought it was unbelievably arrogant.
It was only after I grew did I realize how right he was.
You don’t reject God and belief for any reason that is righteous, nor any reason that is true, but from either ignorance or obstinacy.
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 You have not pointed out philosophical objections
You’ve vomited out a bunch of words
There is a difference
And again, you misquote Aquinas. He argues the opposite. Summa Theologica I q.14
Tertullion said that those who reject God do so out of either ignorance or stubbornness
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 Yikes.
Honestly, the work it would to do articulate the blind stupidity of this post is one thing, but the task in actually showing you why it’s wrong is another altogether.
The blood of Christ covers your sins and mine alike. Including this.
Don’t throw Christ aside. Please.
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 He knows what you will do BUT HE DID NOT BIND YOU TO DOING IT.
The insistence that He did by simply knowing what you will do is the absurd and deluded insistence of pre-determinism.
You do not understand His omniscience, much less how it interacts with the reality of free will
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 Because the angels are endowed with free will as well.
He also created me, knowing how petty, obnoxious, and stubborn I would become.
Again, you’re blaming God for actions where the responsibility falls on the shoulders of those who made them.
Satan isn’t the fault of God.
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 I don’t mean to be pedantic - it’s just that this nuance is actually required to articulate if we are to properly understanding things.
So if Hebrews 6:18 means only that it’s impossible because God never violates His nature, but still has the raw power, then yes, He can do this
@matsciguycanada@diego_zeigler@dmilesp14@thoughts17181 So, can God create a creature in a state of delusion?
Well, Scripture states this action is impossible.
Not necessarily because God lacks the raw power to do so, but that He would never go against His nature by doing so.